Sunday, November 26, 2006
West Ham 1-0 Sheffield United
Three wins from five means that West Ham United are on the up - slowly. A scrambled win against a battling Sheffield United means three points under the new Magnusson regime, but Pardew's boys still have a lot to do to keep the fans happy. Hovering above the relegation zone is not enough, we want to be safe!
I didn't see the game, so can't really comment on it, although Tevez's reported spat as he was substituted is not a good sign. Yossi was not played at all, so hopefully he is working hard in training to get a spot. So far this season he has not realised the potential we saw of him last year.
I didn't see the game, so can't really comment on it, although Tevez's reported spat as he was substituted is not a good sign. Yossi was not played at all, so hopefully he is working hard in training to get a spot. So far this season he has not realised the potential we saw of him last year.
Posted by whubris at 7:40 am
norven munky said...
Quite a bit of Pardew discussion in this post at KUMB
http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=11975
Some notable stuff :-
Tevez? I have to say I thought he was very good. He didn’t get substituted because he was playing poorly. We lost Gabbidon and suddenly looked a very little team. I brought Teddy on to defend set plays – that’s where we were today. If I felt we’d been in control of the game Tevez would have carried on – that was the only reason I took him off. We looked small – I needed two big strikers on to defend. He did get a great reception. His technique is what West Ham fans like. His commitment was there – he was charging around. I have to tell you because you’re going to find out later anyway but he’s gone straight home after the game. I’m very disappointed with that. I haven’t had a chance to explain to him why I subbed him. That’s only happened to me as a manager once before. (In response to a journalist’s question as to whether “home” meant London or Argentina”) There’s only three people in this room would have asked that question (Laughter).
The other time that happened? It was just after I joined West Ham. I fined the player a week’s wages because I felt it was disrespectful to me, my staff and the other players. I’ll have to listen to Carlitos’ explanation. I’m sure it’s just disappointment but that’s no excuse – he has an explanation to give to me on Monday morning. Who was the other player? I think I’ll keep that to myself.
Does Bobby’s lack of goals concern me? Yes. For all his work-rate and commitment, strikers live on goals. There was the move in the first half where he elected to pass and an in-form Bobby would have smashed that in.
Mascherano? Yes it’s difficult for him because he’s desperate to play. For all that’s been said, the two guys have had a first class attitude in training. I think our professionalism to them has also been first class I might add – both players and staff. Mascherano will be disappointed because he wants to play but Hayden Mullins was probably the pick of our players again today. He’s just signed a new contract and plays the same role. He just has a bit more physical power and experience than Mascherano at the moment. So he gets the nod.
An offer for Shaun Wright Phillips? That wasn’t actually true. I made an enquiry. Are they using us to set up an auction? I’m not going to comment on that. They announced that we’d made an enquiry – it was unusual for them to say that but that’s all I’m going to say on that.
The new chairman’s dancing technique? I didn’t see him dance to be honest! It was shocking was it!? Well I think the fans can see that there’s a genuine enthusiasm about him. I’m going to encourage that – I’m going to tell him to reach for the stars and to give me lots of money. Since he’s arrived all the talk has been about the January transfer window. It’s not about that. It’s about the player’s we’ve got. I hope the reporting doesn’t focus on Tevez leaving, or players that might come in. It was a gritty performance in a high pressure game today.
norven munky said...
So I hafta say it would have been hard for Tevez to understand why he was substituted.
He's had his best game since coming to us, has a hand in the goal and get's substituted when we are 1-0 up. Pardew says it was a tactical substitution and I guess you can't argue that he managed to get em through to the final whistle with the 3 points in tact but I think it is entirely understandable Tevez was peeved.
By all accounts the fans booed the substitution too.
Given he was subbed by Marlon and Marlon didn't shake his hand on a previous substitution, I wonder if Carlitos shook Marlon's hand?
There was a SU goal disallowed in the 94th min too for a foul on Green and sounds like there wasn't much in it.
said...
West Ham are to open talks that could lead to them quitting Upton Park and moving into the new stadium being built for the 2012 Olympic Games in a deal that would result in football and athletics being staged there.
A running track? No thanks. So much for the days of the Chicken Run.
whubris said...
Someone posted below that seating would cover the track on match days? Anyone read this?
norven munky said...
while I had read something to that effect very early in the piece, there has been a lot of back peddling since then.
Apparently it is very clear that the IOC stipulated that there must a be an athletics facility as a legacy after the games. Official comments since then have said that if a football clucb is to move to the stadium they will have to :-
1) pay about 100 mill quid
2) be happy with a dual use facility
3) accept a severely reduced capacity as a result.
If the stick to these requirements it won't happen.
But perhaps they don't want to piss off the IOC before the games and will be singing a different tune afterwards.
I hope they hang tough and it will never happen.
said...
"Some form of retractable seating would be installed so that the track would be covered when matches were being played, as happens at the Stade de France in Paris when France play internationals there."
whubris said...
I've never seen that sort of thing, I imagine the atmosphere would still be pretty good though?
said...
I don't know how the olympic stadium would work but the stade de france has 3 tiers. the bottom tier holds 25,000 and can be retracted under the middle tier. However I believe that it takes around a week to do.
If this happens then I'll totally reevaluate my opinion on moving there
said...
Ian 'This Man Is Paid To Talk' Wright's MOTD2 offering, transcribed verbatim:
"Well I think, definitely, in the second half they came out with a better attitude but I think I've seen Chelsea play a few times and they don't really play a lot more. Their tempo's not much more than they started there but they just didn't have the width. They still tried to play the ball to the strength but all the men are in that middle, so that's when they, that's where they're playing all the balls to. Now whether they're mental, I don't know what he means by that, whether they can, the intensity or what, even if they did start sharp, the men are still in the same places so they couldn't get the width. And that's what I couldn't understand."
said...
Brown is still a bastard
Big Earners
News of Wayne Rooney's bumper £35m six-year-deal is bound to prompt renewed complaints from the Jumper For Goalposts brigade about the state of the game but what of Terence Brown? In becoming the former chairman of West Ham United last week, Brown reaped approximately £34m and a snazzy new title of non-executive director.
An understanding of the stock exchange will provide a direct explanation for why Brown has acquired his windfall but not a justification. The publicity-shy businessman was subject to a longstanding 'Brown out' campaign by disgruntled fans, although critics must tread warily after he successfully sued a supporters' pressure group for alledging finanical incompetence. It's unknown whether the funds garnered directly from Hammers fans in the out-of-court settlement was then donated to the club or not.
By any rational assessment, Rooney's weekly wage of £100,000 is offensive. But at least he produces and entertains. What tangible dividend did Brown produce for West Ham before he sold his shares? After almost ten years of complaints that he failed to put in what his club received from transfer sales, Brown still remains on the board despite, until recently, blocking the Magnusson takeover in favour of courting Kia Joorabchian.
Not that it matters a jot, it seems, to the West Ham faithful. Their heads turned by the promise of instant windfall, the dismal morality of their takeover tale has been shamefully ignored.
Eggert Magnusson
Let's hope first appearances are deceptive. An ostentatious celebration and the manipulation of a West Ham scarf-wearing toddler was the behaviour of a cynical politician rather than a benevolent chairman.
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norven munky said...Quite a bit of Pardew discussion in this post at KUMB
http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=11975
Some notable stuff :-
Tevez? I have to say I thought he was very good. He didn’t get substituted because he was playing poorly. We lost Gabbidon and suddenly looked a very little team. I brought Teddy on to defend set plays – that’s where we were today. If I felt we’d been in control of the game Tevez would have carried on – that was the only reason I took him off. We looked small – I needed two big strikers on to defend. He did get a great reception. His technique is what West Ham fans like. His commitment was there – he was charging around. I have to tell you because you’re going to find out later anyway but he’s gone straight home after the game. I’m very disappointed with that. I haven’t had a chance to explain to him why I subbed him. That’s only happened to me as a manager once before. (In response to a journalist’s question as to whether “home” meant London or Argentina”) There’s only three people in this room would have asked that question (Laughter).
The other time that happened? It was just after I joined West Ham. I fined the player a week’s wages because I felt it was disrespectful to me, my staff and the other players. I’ll have to listen to Carlitos’ explanation. I’m sure it’s just disappointment but that’s no excuse – he has an explanation to give to me on Monday morning. Who was the other player? I think I’ll keep that to myself.
Does Bobby’s lack of goals concern me? Yes. For all his work-rate and commitment, strikers live on goals. There was the move in the first half where he elected to pass and an in-form Bobby would have smashed that in.
Mascherano? Yes it’s difficult for him because he’s desperate to play. For all that’s been said, the two guys have had a first class attitude in training. I think our professionalism to them has also been first class I might add – both players and staff. Mascherano will be disappointed because he wants to play but Hayden Mullins was probably the pick of our players again today. He’s just signed a new contract and plays the same role. He just has a bit more physical power and experience than Mascherano at the moment. So he gets the nod.
An offer for Shaun Wright Phillips? That wasn’t actually true. I made an enquiry. Are they using us to set up an auction? I’m not going to comment on that. They announced that we’d made an enquiry – it was unusual for them to say that but that’s all I’m going to say on that.
The new chairman’s dancing technique? I didn’t see him dance to be honest! It was shocking was it!? Well I think the fans can see that there’s a genuine enthusiasm about him. I’m going to encourage that – I’m going to tell him to reach for the stars and to give me lots of money. Since he’s arrived all the talk has been about the January transfer window. It’s not about that. It’s about the player’s we’ve got. I hope the reporting doesn’t focus on Tevez leaving, or players that might come in. It was a gritty performance in a high pressure game today.
norven munky said...So I hafta say it would have been hard for Tevez to understand why he was substituted.
He's had his best game since coming to us, has a hand in the goal and get's substituted when we are 1-0 up. Pardew says it was a tactical substitution and I guess you can't argue that he managed to get em through to the final whistle with the 3 points in tact but I think it is entirely understandable Tevez was peeved.
By all accounts the fans booed the substitution too.
Given he was subbed by Marlon and Marlon didn't shake his hand on a previous substitution, I wonder if Carlitos shook Marlon's hand?
There was a SU goal disallowed in the 94th min too for a foul on Green and sounds like there wasn't much in it.
said...West Ham are to open talks that could lead to them quitting Upton Park and moving into the new stadium being built for the 2012 Olympic Games in a deal that would result in football and athletics being staged there.
A running track? No thanks. So much for the days of the Chicken Run.
whubris said...Someone posted below that seating would cover the track on match days? Anyone read this?
norven munky said...while I had read something to that effect very early in the piece, there has been a lot of back peddling since then.
Apparently it is very clear that the IOC stipulated that there must a be an athletics facility as a legacy after the games. Official comments since then have said that if a football clucb is to move to the stadium they will have to :-
1) pay about 100 mill quid
2) be happy with a dual use facility
3) accept a severely reduced capacity as a result.
If the stick to these requirements it won't happen.
But perhaps they don't want to piss off the IOC before the games and will be singing a different tune afterwards.
I hope they hang tough and it will never happen.
said..."Some form of retractable seating would be installed so that the track would be covered when matches were being played, as happens at the Stade de France in Paris when France play internationals there."
whubris said...I've never seen that sort of thing, I imagine the atmosphere would still be pretty good though?
said...I don't know how the olympic stadium would work but the stade de france has 3 tiers. the bottom tier holds 25,000 and can be retracted under the middle tier. However I believe that it takes around a week to do.
If this happens then I'll totally reevaluate my opinion on moving there
said...Ian 'This Man Is Paid To Talk' Wright's MOTD2 offering, transcribed verbatim:
"Well I think, definitely, in the second half they came out with a better attitude but I think I've seen Chelsea play a few times and they don't really play a lot more. Their tempo's not much more than they started there but they just didn't have the width. They still tried to play the ball to the strength but all the men are in that middle, so that's when they, that's where they're playing all the balls to. Now whether they're mental, I don't know what he means by that, whether they can, the intensity or what, even if they did start sharp, the men are still in the same places so they couldn't get the width. And that's what I couldn't understand."
said...Brown is still a bastard
Big Earners
News of Wayne Rooney's bumper £35m six-year-deal is bound to prompt renewed complaints from the Jumper For Goalposts brigade about the state of the game but what of Terence Brown? In becoming the former chairman of West Ham United last week, Brown reaped approximately £34m and a snazzy new title of non-executive director.
An understanding of the stock exchange will provide a direct explanation for why Brown has acquired his windfall but not a justification. The publicity-shy businessman was subject to a longstanding 'Brown out' campaign by disgruntled fans, although critics must tread warily after he successfully sued a supporters' pressure group for alledging finanical incompetence. It's unknown whether the funds garnered directly from Hammers fans in the out-of-court settlement was then donated to the club or not.
By any rational assessment, Rooney's weekly wage of £100,000 is offensive. But at least he produces and entertains. What tangible dividend did Brown produce for West Ham before he sold his shares? After almost ten years of complaints that he failed to put in what his club received from transfer sales, Brown still remains on the board despite, until recently, blocking the Magnusson takeover in favour of courting Kia Joorabchian.
Not that it matters a jot, it seems, to the West Ham faithful. Their heads turned by the promise of instant windfall, the dismal morality of their takeover tale has been shamefully ignored.
Eggert Magnusson
Let's hope first appearances are deceptive. An ostentatious celebration and the manipulation of a West Ham scarf-wearing toddler was the behaviour of a cynical politician rather than a benevolent chairman.
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