Monday, June 18, 2007
Tevez in Bobby out?
News round-up. Take it with a grain of salt but...
http://www.24dash.com/sport/22301.htm is reporting :-
Carlos Tevez could still be a West Ham player next season, after reports emerged over a new deal which will keep the Argentina international at Upton Park.
[snip]
But, a "top source" revealed to the News of the World: "Mr Magnusson has pulled out all the stops to keep Carlos for at least another season. "The package will cost £9million in wages and payments to his owner Kia Joorabchian but the chairman is convinced the deal is done."
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The same source is also touting Bobby is set to leave though they are quoting News of the World!, http://www.24dash.com/sport/22314.htm :-
"Hammers boss Alan Curbishley has told Zamora he has no future at Upton Park and can leave along with fellow striker Marlon Harewood."
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The Sheffield United arbitration hearing occurs today. Something I hadn't read before is that SU themselves undertook a questionable dealing in January
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/17/sports/EU-SPT-SOC-West-Ham-Tevez.php :-
"But a report Sunday said United also breached league rules by selling Steve Kabba to Watford with the proviso that the striker didn't play against them in a subsequent match.
Such arrangements are frequently arranged with loan deals. But Kabba moved to Watford in a full transfer in January and the Premier League rules say there can be no contractual terms to prevent a player from facing a former club.
McCabe said there was nothing in the contract that Kabba shouldn't play against the Blades, although the two managers may have agreed between them.
"I am sure there won't be a clause in the contract," he said. "The contract transferring Steve Kabba from Sheffield to Watford was one that was open, was honest and was properly looked at by the Premier League and registered. There is no gray area on that whatsoever."
So it's alright as long as you don't commit the breach of rules to paper?!?!?!? Two faced twats.
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http://www.inthenews.co.uk/sports/sport/football/transfer-gossip/june-17th-$1100527.htm suggests we have beaten out Everton for Manuel Fernandes . The defensive midfielder has been on loan at Everton since January where he made 9 appearances and scored 2 goals including one against Man United. Reports are Everton weren't prepared to pay the £12 million asking price.
http://www.24dash.com/sport/22301.htm is reporting :-
Carlos Tevez could still be a West Ham player next season, after reports emerged over a new deal which will keep the Argentina international at Upton Park.
[snip]
But, a "top source" revealed to the News of the World: "Mr Magnusson has pulled out all the stops to keep Carlos for at least another season. "The package will cost £9million in wages and payments to his owner Kia Joorabchian but the chairman is convinced the deal is done."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The same source is also touting Bobby is set to leave though they are quoting News of the World!, http://www.24dash.com/sport/22314.htm :-
"Hammers boss Alan Curbishley has told Zamora he has no future at Upton Park and can leave along with fellow striker Marlon Harewood."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Sheffield United arbitration hearing occurs today. Something I hadn't read before is that SU themselves undertook a questionable dealing in January
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/17/sports/EU-SPT-SOC-West-Ham-Tevez.php :-
"But a report Sunday said United also breached league rules by selling Steve Kabba to Watford with the proviso that the striker didn't play against them in a subsequent match.
Such arrangements are frequently arranged with loan deals. But Kabba moved to Watford in a full transfer in January and the Premier League rules say there can be no contractual terms to prevent a player from facing a former club.
McCabe said there was nothing in the contract that Kabba shouldn't play against the Blades, although the two managers may have agreed between them.
"I am sure there won't be a clause in the contract," he said. "The contract transferring Steve Kabba from Sheffield to Watford was one that was open, was honest and was properly looked at by the Premier League and registered. There is no gray area on that whatsoever."
So it's alright as long as you don't commit the breach of rules to paper?!?!?!? Two faced twats.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.inthenews.co.uk/sports/sport/football/transfer-gossip/june-17th-$1100527.htm suggests we have beaten out Everton for Manuel Fernandes . The defensive midfielder has been on loan at Everton since January where he made 9 appearances and scored 2 goals including one against Man United. Reports are Everton weren't prepared to pay the £12 million asking price.
Posted by norven munky at 12:54 pm
TheRedRisky said...
I dont think Zamora will be going anywhere. He top scored last season and with the exception of like 2 games, we always took a point whenever he scored.
I heard the same rumour about tevez. I think its worth 9 mil if we hold onto him, essentially seeing as he won us 50 mil by helping to keep us up
said...
This is from WHO from a journo poster (HACK) with close ties to west ham analising the NOTW
article
This is the way I read it (opinion, not fact):
Kia owns a very remarkable asset in Tevez. Obviously he wants the biggest possible return on his investment.
At the moment, he can best achieve this through very expensive one-year loan deals - thus retaining control of his assett while still earning a serious wedge off it.
Last season, Tevez and Mascherano were unknown quantities in Europe. So Kia placed them (at considerable expense) at a club in the world's most watched, most popular league. The ideal shop window and a win-win for Kia.
West ham (for whatever dumb, idiotic reason) didn't utilise Mascher and he was loaned off on equally good terms to Liverpool.
It is worth noting, Liverpool wouldn't touch Mascher in August, but were happy to pay out for an expensive loan deal 6 months later. The West Ham gamble paid off for Kia.
So what now? Well, Tevez was magnificent for a dozen games and the SheffU case has ironically made him big news.
But not quite big enough for anyone to meet the huge buy-out price.
So Kia agrees another enormous loan deal with West Ham taking us to next summer - when the whole saga starts again.
If a Tevez-inspired West Ham fulfil all our dreams and finish top-6 then we give Tevez European football.
If Eggy next summer announces another big transfer splash on top of the mega new stadium......well, then Kia and Tevez have some serious thinking to do.
Eggy will match any financial offer - that much is guaranteed. If Tevez is happy at West Ham and if West Ham are proving themselves to be as ambitious as we say....
All we have to do now is get that year-long deal secured.
Jeez, it's gonna be a long long long week...
said...
highly doubt zamora be leaving us... he has scored goals and will keep doin it... hopefully tevez stays too yea
anyway, my band PLAN OF ATTACK are playin at CLUB PHOENIX in the city on june 29th, friday... $10 gets u in and there's 4 other bands... doors open 7 i think...
hope to see you bois there
mr west ham bret
beggers said...
This is bullshit, Zamora's going nowhere.
Always thought Tevez would be around for another season and I still think this will be the case. He needs to prove himself in the EPL before others will come shopping. He'll score 20+ goals this season and Ashton will get 15ish, Zamora chips in with 6 or so and the midfield with 8 to 10. It'll be raining goals.
Interesting read brisvegas.
Good luck with the band mr WH bret.
Melbournehammer said...
It was on the SUFC official website and Watford website that Kabba did not play because it was in his contract.Kabba played 14 out of 15 games for Watford only missing the Sheffield game.
When asked on Skysports news McCabe said a) he didn't know about it and it can't be right
b)the game was shortly after the transfer er no transfer window closed Jan 31 SUFC v Watford 28th April!
c)it was a biased article written by a WHU supporting journo,Martin Samuel.
Further developments in the last 24 hours regarding the legality of Jon Stead's transfer to SUFC.Remember him ,who scored their 3rd goal against us.It appears he played for 3 clubs between July 1 06 and now.
TheRedRisky said...
Always knew the scouse were cunts!
C+P BBC
Parry gives evidence for Blades
West Ham striker Carlos Tevez is at the centre of the controversy
Tevez is at the centre of the Sheffield United-West Ham saga
Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry has given evidence for Sheffield United as the Blades fight the Premier League in a bid to overturn their relegation.
A two-day hearing has started in London to decide if the Blades should be reinstated after West Ham - who stayed up - breached player ownership rules.
They were fined £5.5m but avoided a points penalty over the signing of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano.
Parry appeared at the arbitration tribunal on Monday.
He first drew attention to the rule breaches when Liverpool signed Mascherano from West Ham in the January transfer window.
I think the Premier League accept they wish the arbitration was not happening
Sheff Utd plc chairman Kevin McCabe
Sheffield United plc chairman Kevin McCabe also appeared as a witness, with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore and general secretary Mike Foster appearing for the other side.
The independent arbitration panel can order a new disciplinary hearing against West Ham or that some compensation be paid to Sheffield United.
The three-man panel's main role is to see whether the correct disciplinary procedures were followed.
Retired High Court judge Sir Philip Otton is chairing the hearing in Fleet Street, with David Pannick QC representing the Blades and leading barrister Nicholas Randall acting for the Premier League.
A verdict is expected to be delivered on Tuesday.
McCabe is adamant the panel will rule in favour of his club over a saga that started back in March.
In that month, West Ham were found guilty of acting improperly and withholding vital documentation over the Argentine pair's ownership but they escaped a points deduction and Tevez was allowed to continue playing.
606: DEBATE
Your views on this story
He and Mascherano, who is now at Liverpool, were part-owned by a third party but the Hammers then ended that agreement, which satisfied the Premier League.
Tevez was one of the major factors in the club's late escape - scoring a goal on the final day of the season at Manchester United to help the Hammers stay up.
The Blades finished on the same number of points as fourth-from-bottom Wigan but were relegated on goal difference.
"I think the Premier League accept they wish the arbitration was not happening," McCabe said last week.
"But in the knowledge it is happening and it cannot be prevented, then if the decision is overturned we should be reselected to the Premier League.
"Since we really looked into the whys and the wherefores of the Tevez affair it became apparent that a wrong decision was made."
Presentations by the Blades have also been made to the European Commission.
"We expressed our concerns of the whole affair," said club spokesman Andy Pack.
"It wasn't a question of trying to enlist support or lobby, rather a chance to inform them of where we are."
Ads said...
Been watching a bit of the Euro u21 tournament on the weekend. I reckon that manolo fenrnandes looks really good. He's got an awesome range of passing and he really throws himself into his tackles. With half a season on loan at Everton I reckon he will have adjusted a bit to the english game as well.
Plus his goal against Manure was an absolute ripper. Find the youtube clip if you have some free time on your hands.
said...
Manuel Fernandes would be a sensational central midfielder and just over a year ago was rated on of as one of the most talented young central midfielders in Europe whilst at Benfica. He is a very good player and well worth around 10 million or so pounds.
I posted after the transfer window, that I am not sure Curbs is the man to spend the cash and the bids made for Bent and Andy Johnson have been ridiculous. When Berbatov can be signed for 10 mill pounds why are we bidding 17 million pounds for Bent? Unbelievable.
Look I dont know who wants to come to the club and who doesnt, but why couldnt we sign someone like Quaresma as a right winger a sensational player. As a striker, not really sure but why not little Nihat the Turkish striker or Diego Milito from Zaragoza surely they would be far cheaper than most options?
You guys should check out the article in Soccernet about the Hammers is quite a good one.
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TheRedRisky said...I dont think Zamora will be going anywhere. He top scored last season and with the exception of like 2 games, we always took a point whenever he scored.
I heard the same rumour about tevez. I think its worth 9 mil if we hold onto him, essentially seeing as he won us 50 mil by helping to keep us up
said...This is from WHO from a journo poster (HACK) with close ties to west ham analising the NOTW
article
This is the way I read it (opinion, not fact):
Kia owns a very remarkable asset in Tevez. Obviously he wants the biggest possible return on his investment.
At the moment, he can best achieve this through very expensive one-year loan deals - thus retaining control of his assett while still earning a serious wedge off it.
Last season, Tevez and Mascherano were unknown quantities in Europe. So Kia placed them (at considerable expense) at a club in the world's most watched, most popular league. The ideal shop window and a win-win for Kia.
West ham (for whatever dumb, idiotic reason) didn't utilise Mascher and he was loaned off on equally good terms to Liverpool.
It is worth noting, Liverpool wouldn't touch Mascher in August, but were happy to pay out for an expensive loan deal 6 months later. The West Ham gamble paid off for Kia.
So what now? Well, Tevez was magnificent for a dozen games and the SheffU case has ironically made him big news.
But not quite big enough for anyone to meet the huge buy-out price.
So Kia agrees another enormous loan deal with West Ham taking us to next summer - when the whole saga starts again.
If a Tevez-inspired West Ham fulfil all our dreams and finish top-6 then we give Tevez European football.
If Eggy next summer announces another big transfer splash on top of the mega new stadium......well, then Kia and Tevez have some serious thinking to do.
Eggy will match any financial offer - that much is guaranteed. If Tevez is happy at West Ham and if West Ham are proving themselves to be as ambitious as we say....
All we have to do now is get that year-long deal secured.
Jeez, it's gonna be a long long long week...
said...highly doubt zamora be leaving us... he has scored goals and will keep doin it... hopefully tevez stays too yea
anyway, my band PLAN OF ATTACK are playin at CLUB PHOENIX in the city on june 29th, friday... $10 gets u in and there's 4 other bands... doors open 7 i think...
hope to see you bois there
mr west ham bret
beggers said...This is bullshit, Zamora's going nowhere.
Always thought Tevez would be around for another season and I still think this will be the case. He needs to prove himself in the EPL before others will come shopping. He'll score 20+ goals this season and Ashton will get 15ish, Zamora chips in with 6 or so and the midfield with 8 to 10. It'll be raining goals.
Interesting read brisvegas.
Good luck with the band mr WH bret.
Melbournehammer said...It was on the SUFC official website and Watford website that Kabba did not play because it was in his contract.Kabba played 14 out of 15 games for Watford only missing the Sheffield game.
When asked on Skysports news McCabe said a) he didn't know about it and it can't be right
b)the game was shortly after the transfer er no transfer window closed Jan 31 SUFC v Watford 28th April!
c)it was a biased article written by a WHU supporting journo,Martin Samuel.
Further developments in the last 24 hours regarding the legality of Jon Stead's transfer to SUFC.Remember him ,who scored their 3rd goal against us.It appears he played for 3 clubs between July 1 06 and now.
TheRedRisky said...Always knew the scouse were cunts!
C+P BBC
Parry gives evidence for Blades
West Ham striker Carlos Tevez is at the centre of the controversy
Tevez is at the centre of the Sheffield United-West Ham saga
Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry has given evidence for Sheffield United as the Blades fight the Premier League in a bid to overturn their relegation.
A two-day hearing has started in London to decide if the Blades should be reinstated after West Ham - who stayed up - breached player ownership rules.
They were fined £5.5m but avoided a points penalty over the signing of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano.
Parry appeared at the arbitration tribunal on Monday.
He first drew attention to the rule breaches when Liverpool signed Mascherano from West Ham in the January transfer window.
I think the Premier League accept they wish the arbitration was not happening
Sheff Utd plc chairman Kevin McCabe
Sheffield United plc chairman Kevin McCabe also appeared as a witness, with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore and general secretary Mike Foster appearing for the other side.
The independent arbitration panel can order a new disciplinary hearing against West Ham or that some compensation be paid to Sheffield United.
The three-man panel's main role is to see whether the correct disciplinary procedures were followed.
Retired High Court judge Sir Philip Otton is chairing the hearing in Fleet Street, with David Pannick QC representing the Blades and leading barrister Nicholas Randall acting for the Premier League.
A verdict is expected to be delivered on Tuesday.
McCabe is adamant the panel will rule in favour of his club over a saga that started back in March.
In that month, West Ham were found guilty of acting improperly and withholding vital documentation over the Argentine pair's ownership but they escaped a points deduction and Tevez was allowed to continue playing.
606: DEBATE
Your views on this story
He and Mascherano, who is now at Liverpool, were part-owned by a third party but the Hammers then ended that agreement, which satisfied the Premier League.
Tevez was one of the major factors in the club's late escape - scoring a goal on the final day of the season at Manchester United to help the Hammers stay up.
The Blades finished on the same number of points as fourth-from-bottom Wigan but were relegated on goal difference.
"I think the Premier League accept they wish the arbitration was not happening," McCabe said last week.
"But in the knowledge it is happening and it cannot be prevented, then if the decision is overturned we should be reselected to the Premier League.
"Since we really looked into the whys and the wherefores of the Tevez affair it became apparent that a wrong decision was made."
Presentations by the Blades have also been made to the European Commission.
"We expressed our concerns of the whole affair," said club spokesman Andy Pack.
"It wasn't a question of trying to enlist support or lobby, rather a chance to inform them of where we are."
Ads said...Been watching a bit of the Euro u21 tournament on the weekend. I reckon that manolo fenrnandes looks really good. He's got an awesome range of passing and he really throws himself into his tackles. With half a season on loan at Everton I reckon he will have adjusted a bit to the english game as well.
Plus his goal against Manure was an absolute ripper. Find the youtube clip if you have some free time on your hands.
said...Manuel Fernandes would be a sensational central midfielder and just over a year ago was rated on of as one of the most talented young central midfielders in Europe whilst at Benfica. He is a very good player and well worth around 10 million or so pounds.
I posted after the transfer window, that I am not sure Curbs is the man to spend the cash and the bids made for Bent and Andy Johnson have been ridiculous. When Berbatov can be signed for 10 mill pounds why are we bidding 17 million pounds for Bent? Unbelievable.
Look I dont know who wants to come to the club and who doesnt, but why couldnt we sign someone like Quaresma as a right winger a sensational player. As a striker, not really sure but why not little Nihat the Turkish striker or Diego Milito from Zaragoza surely they would be far cheaper than most options?
You guys should check out the article in Soccernet about the Hammers is quite a good one.
