Thursday, May 31, 2007
8.5M bid for Scott Parker!
Curbishley has made an 8.5M GBP bid for Newcastle Captain Scott Parker as a replacement for the imminently outbound Nigel Reo-Coker. If we were to recoup a similar fee for NRC I'd say this was a good swap and a step in the right direction. Hopefully the barcodes will accept our bid as I think this is as high a fee as I'd like to pay for the player. Curbs is keeping up his tradition of signing club captains so expect John Terry & Steven Gerrard at West Ham by the end of the summer ;-).
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TheRedRisky said...
Whats SP actually like. Ive hear all differing opinions on the subject.
Is he better then RC if so then id say its a good deal :P
Wed be breaking out transfer record with this deal too.
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Scott Parker from what I used to see at Charlton and lately is a workaholic all action midfielder. Good player. Can pass and shoot as well.
Problem is he appears to be very injury prone.
RC is a fantastic player when motivated but i think would fit far better in a spanish league team.
8.5 mill is a fair bit though, I mean Sulley Muntari who is a fantastic all action midfielder who i rate very highly, has only been signed for 7mill and Manuel Fernandes is another fantastic midfielder who was worth i think 7 mill as well and both are better players than Parker.
Maybe Dave is right he sees Parker as Captain material so if he stays injury free he will be a good purchase.
a general point, I think we really need to be careful who we buy, we have some good money to spend and should spend it wisely on some really good players. Not guys that are not much better than what we have.
any other suggested signings?
I still rate Vincent Kompany who is Rio Ferdinand with concentration. Plays for Hamburg. Would he come to a club like the hammers? Or am I in fantasy football land?
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Lol..
yes a big fan BUT ive seen Kompany play for anderlecht before and for belgium and he is a tall, fast, athletic central defender who can use the ball. Perfect signing.
One thing that was hard to pick out was his reading of the game, because Ive only seen him a few times. Plus Hamburg had a crap year and he seems to have dropped off the radar of the big clubs who were all after him before that move. Thomas Doll the manager also left...plus foreign players seem more amiable to a premier league move than they did before.
Another bundesliga dude would be Nuri Sahin, who I saw play for turkey at the youth champs, fantastic midfield prospect currently with borussia i think, should take a look at him, if he would come to the club.
TheRedRisky said...
C+P BBC
West Ham close to £7m Parker deal
Scott Parker
Parker was made Newcastle captain at the start of the 2006/07 season
West Ham are believed to be close to sealing a £7m deal for Newcastle captain Scott Parker after fighting off late interest from Tottenham.
Hammers chief executive Scott Duxbury held late-night talks with Parker's representatives following Spurs' move.
Parker is reportedly set to meet West Ham officials on Thursday after a fee was agreed with the Magpies.
whubris said...
hey before I talk about SP I would like to thank Beggers and Dave for trying to get me a shirt, sorry I was so slack!
I thought SP was really good when he was with Charlton, an excellent hard working and effective classical central mid. Thought he got worse with Chelsea and Newcastle but still decent - hopefully Curbs can get the best out of him again. Certainly a good signing, just not sure about the $.
beggers said...
He's been injured at bit which bothers me but from memory he seemed a decent player. Not sure on the fee mind.
Really I was hoping for a more playmaking midfielder who not only was hard working but had skill to open up defences as well as chip in a few goals. Not sure the thunderbird fits the bill. 'yes me lady'. Maybe I'm being too hard on the bloke or to ambitious? but Parker just seems beige to me, I just can't get excited about it.
Another holding mid-fielder wouldn't go astray, Mashcerano anybody?
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whats the G-O with that cunt anyway? is he ours now after a loan or did liverpool have the option to buy at the end of the lease?
i have heard precious little in regards to the matter...or maybe i heard but was not listening
norven munky said...
I think Parker is good business at 7 mill. I'd be surprised if Neill isn't our next captain tho.
How did the poll get so many votes so quickly..surely the majority don't think he will stay?
norven munky said...
I reckon tribal football make up half of the shit they report..they are the only ones who have linked us with Tim Cahill.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=41806
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TheRedRisky said...Whats SP actually like. Ive hear all differing opinions on the subject.
Is he better then RC if so then id say its a good deal :P
Wed be breaking out transfer record with this deal too.
said...Scott Parker from what I used to see at Charlton and lately is a workaholic all action midfielder. Good player. Can pass and shoot as well.
Problem is he appears to be very injury prone.
RC is a fantastic player when motivated but i think would fit far better in a spanish league team.
8.5 mill is a fair bit though, I mean Sulley Muntari who is a fantastic all action midfielder who i rate very highly, has only been signed for 7mill and Manuel Fernandes is another fantastic midfielder who was worth i think 7 mill as well and both are better players than Parker.
Maybe Dave is right he sees Parker as Captain material so if he stays injury free he will be a good purchase.
a general point, I think we really need to be careful who we buy, we have some good money to spend and should spend it wisely on some really good players. Not guys that are not much better than what we have.
any other suggested signings?
I still rate Vincent Kompany who is Rio Ferdinand with concentration. Plays for Hamburg. Would he come to a club like the hammers? Or am I in fantasy football land?
said...Lol..
yes a big fan BUT ive seen Kompany play for anderlecht before and for belgium and he is a tall, fast, athletic central defender who can use the ball. Perfect signing.
One thing that was hard to pick out was his reading of the game, because Ive only seen him a few times. Plus Hamburg had a crap year and he seems to have dropped off the radar of the big clubs who were all after him before that move. Thomas Doll the manager also left...plus foreign players seem more amiable to a premier league move than they did before.
Another bundesliga dude would be Nuri Sahin, who I saw play for turkey at the youth champs, fantastic midfield prospect currently with borussia i think, should take a look at him, if he would come to the club.
TheRedRisky said...C+P BBC
West Ham close to £7m Parker deal
Scott Parker
Parker was made Newcastle captain at the start of the 2006/07 season
West Ham are believed to be close to sealing a £7m deal for Newcastle captain Scott Parker after fighting off late interest from Tottenham.
Hammers chief executive Scott Duxbury held late-night talks with Parker's representatives following Spurs' move.
Parker is reportedly set to meet West Ham officials on Thursday after a fee was agreed with the Magpies.
whubris said...hey before I talk about SP I would like to thank Beggers and Dave for trying to get me a shirt, sorry I was so slack!
I thought SP was really good when he was with Charlton, an excellent hard working and effective classical central mid. Thought he got worse with Chelsea and Newcastle but still decent - hopefully Curbs can get the best out of him again. Certainly a good signing, just not sure about the $.
beggers said...He's been injured at bit which bothers me but from memory he seemed a decent player. Not sure on the fee mind.
Really I was hoping for a more playmaking midfielder who not only was hard working but had skill to open up defences as well as chip in a few goals. Not sure the thunderbird fits the bill. 'yes me lady'. Maybe I'm being too hard on the bloke or to ambitious? but Parker just seems beige to me, I just can't get excited about it.
Another holding mid-fielder wouldn't go astray, Mashcerano anybody?
said...whats the G-O with that cunt anyway? is he ours now after a loan or did liverpool have the option to buy at the end of the lease?
i have heard precious little in regards to the matter...or maybe i heard but was not listening
norven munky said...I think Parker is good business at 7 mill. I'd be surprised if Neill isn't our next captain tho.
How did the poll get so many votes so quickly..surely the majority don't think he will stay?
norven munky said...I reckon tribal football make up half of the shit they report..they are the only ones who have linked us with Tim Cahill.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=41806
Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Pre Season Friendly Dates
these are the first team games, there are some others listed as West Ham XI
Jul 14 Dagenham & Redbridge (away)
week away overseas, games tba
Jul 24 Leyton Orient (away)
Jul 25 MK Dons (away, seniors&kids)
Jul 28 Southend (away)
Jul 31 Norwich (away)
Aug 4 TBA (home)
Jul 14 Dagenham & Redbridge (away)
week away overseas, games tba
Jul 24 Leyton Orient (away)
Jul 25 MK Dons (away, seniors&kids)
Jul 28 Southend (away)
Jul 31 Norwich (away)
Aug 4 TBA (home)
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apparently we gona sign luke young for 5mil... wat a fuckenwaste of $$ considering last time we tried to sign him he didnt wanna know...
geez should be looking at kightly from wolves, reckn he was impressive for wolves...
up the hammers
west ham bret
beggers said...
Read somewhere that the general consensus, around the club, was that we had a weak pre-season last time round and as a result were underdone at the beginning of the season. So this time Curbs is planning a hard pre-season so that we hit the ground running come August. As well as those posted above by NM there are a few overseas friendlies as well.
Sounds good, none of this easing into it crap. Get stuck in from the first kick of the ball.
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said...apparently we gona sign luke young for 5mil... wat a fuckenwaste of $$ considering last time we tried to sign him he didnt wanna know...
geez should be looking at kightly from wolves, reckn he was impressive for wolves...
up the hammers
west ham bret
beggers said...Read somewhere that the general consensus, around the club, was that we had a weak pre-season last time round and as a result were underdone at the beginning of the season. So this time Curbs is planning a hard pre-season so that we hit the ground running come August. As well as those posted above by NM there are a few overseas friendlies as well.
Sounds good, none of this easing into it crap. Get stuck in from the first kick of the ball.
Monday, May 28, 2007
Do Do Do - Nigel Cheerioker!
Well it's official - the moaning little twat has handed in his transfer request.
His agent is bleating on that he can't beleive West Ham are letting him leave but this all smells a bit fishy to me - if it is West Ham that are letting him leave then why is it Reo-Coker handing in a transfer request not the club placing him on the transfer list??? I think our Nigel & his agent are trying to hold Eggy to ransom and he's telling them to fuck off!
I really would've liked to see him stay as he put in some blinding performances towards the end of the season and with the quality we are prepared to bring to the club there could've been some serious competition on Nigel to perform in a West Ham shirt over the next 12 months.
I'm afraid Nige you'll always be remembered at West Ham for your below par performances when we needed you to be a man, step up a gear and captain your team.
His agent is bleating on that he can't beleive West Ham are letting him leave but this all smells a bit fishy to me - if it is West Ham that are letting him leave then why is it Reo-Coker handing in a transfer request not the club placing him on the transfer list??? I think our Nigel & his agent are trying to hold Eggy to ransom and he's telling them to fuck off!
I really would've liked to see him stay as he put in some blinding performances towards the end of the season and with the quality we are prepared to bring to the club there could've been some serious competition on Nigel to perform in a West Ham shirt over the next 12 months.
I'm afraid Nige you'll always be remembered at West Ham for your below par performances when we needed you to be a man, step up a gear and captain your team.
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beggers said...
Yeah I agree with Dave, he played real well on our run in but was MIA for most of the season? His childish behaviour when Masher came in was unbelievable and if he does stay it worries me that he may throw another tantrum when other players are brought in, in the same postion he plays. I can only imagine what he'll do when the captains armband is taken from him and given to Lucas?
It's all disappointing really 'cause I think he could be a quality player but his ego has got in his way and until he grows up he'll never progress.
whubris said...
1st - LOL @ dave's headline! From Nigel Mediocre to Nigel Cheerioker, classic stuff.
excuse me for a moment
(cough)
He can fuck right off now out of my club, and shut the door on his way out as far as I'm concerned. He's nothing but a liability, a highly talented utter twat who would be Premiership class every week if he didn't have a big, wooden, fat-filled head to lug about. Part of the cancer that ate at our club from the insides. He was pretty much absent for most of the season, until the run-in when he realised that if he wasn't going to go play for Tranmere he'd have to put in a bit of effort. Typical of him in games too - laze about till it looks like he'll get subbed and then go on a decent run for 10 minutes. Then he has the hide to suggest that he saved our season. Oh, do Fuck Off.
Nigel Mediocre = Judas III
Good riddance!
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Whubris - I'm sensing very strongly that you weren't that big a fan of ol' Nige ;-)I've never rated him that highly, good battler at the end of the season but not really a quality player, passing was average, etc. I'm even less of a fan of the other Nigel. I hope he fucks off rather sharpish. Quashie is a totally useless tosser.
beggers said...
Too late for the shirt whubris, sorry mate. Hopefully there will be other orders in the future.
norven munky said...
shirts sold out eh? Mines going on ebay then..you twats would have only spilt beer on it anyway :)
beggers said...
NM, lol.
I see the kit launch for 07/08 is on the 16 June as well. Are we gonna make a group order?
Blimey whubris. Now that's a rant. Quality! lol
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did someone say we can only buy the new strips online, from the whu store?
or was that bull shit? cuz i think they go allright...i wouldnt mind one
TheRedRisky said...
i think there was talk of a group order WAY back, and somethnig about getting it cheaper cos its like a bulk order... or something
beggers said...
I heard something similar Deano?
Risky, Dave mentioned it a while back.Over to you Davie boy.
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Deano,
I made that post before about the kits, this is where I got it from:
http://www.whufc.com/news/?page_id=8836
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canning ton hammer here
latest doing the rounds here in east london is joey barton to be a hammer very soon
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I'll have a chat to you about getting club shirts on the night but we should be able to club together and save some postage - also we should be VAT exempt ordering from oz.
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"Nigel Reo-Coker is fending off interest from Tottenham to hold out for the possibility of a move to Arsenal or Manchester United. West Ham want about £9m for their captain, who submitted a transfer request after feeling he was not part of Alan Curbishley's long-term plans."
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2089900,00.html
he's kidding isnt he! after this years half assed, dont give a fuck attitude i doubt it
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beggers said...Yeah I agree with Dave, he played real well on our run in but was MIA for most of the season? His childish behaviour when Masher came in was unbelievable and if he does stay it worries me that he may throw another tantrum when other players are brought in, in the same postion he plays. I can only imagine what he'll do when the captains armband is taken from him and given to Lucas?
It's all disappointing really 'cause I think he could be a quality player but his ego has got in his way and until he grows up he'll never progress.
whubris said...1st - LOL @ dave's headline! From Nigel Mediocre to Nigel Cheerioker, classic stuff.
excuse me for a moment
(cough)
He can fuck right off now out of my club, and shut the door on his way out as far as I'm concerned. He's nothing but a liability, a highly talented utter twat who would be Premiership class every week if he didn't have a big, wooden, fat-filled head to lug about. Part of the cancer that ate at our club from the insides. He was pretty much absent for most of the season, until the run-in when he realised that if he wasn't going to go play for Tranmere he'd have to put in a bit of effort. Typical of him in games too - laze about till it looks like he'll get subbed and then go on a decent run for 10 minutes. Then he has the hide to suggest that he saved our season. Oh, do Fuck Off.
Nigel Mediocre = Judas III
Good riddance!
said...Whubris - I'm sensing very strongly that you weren't that big a fan of ol' Nige ;-)I've never rated him that highly, good battler at the end of the season but not really a quality player, passing was average, etc. I'm even less of a fan of the other Nigel. I hope he fucks off rather sharpish. Quashie is a totally useless tosser.
beggers said...Too late for the shirt whubris, sorry mate. Hopefully there will be other orders in the future.
norven munky said...shirts sold out eh? Mines going on ebay then..you twats would have only spilt beer on it anyway :)
beggers said...NM, lol.
I see the kit launch for 07/08 is on the 16 June as well. Are we gonna make a group order?
Blimey whubris. Now that's a rant. Quality! lol
said...did someone say we can only buy the new strips online, from the whu store?
or was that bull shit? cuz i think they go allright...i wouldnt mind one
TheRedRisky said...i think there was talk of a group order WAY back, and somethnig about getting it cheaper cos its like a bulk order... or something
beggers said...I heard something similar Deano?
Risky, Dave mentioned it a while back.Over to you Davie boy.
said...Deano,
I made that post before about the kits, this is where I got it from:
http://www.whufc.com/news/?page_id=8836
said...canning ton hammer here
latest doing the rounds here in east london is joey barton to be a hammer very soon
said...I'll have a chat to you about getting club shirts on the night but we should be able to club together and save some postage - also we should be VAT exempt ordering from oz.
said..."Nigel Reo-Coker is fending off interest from Tottenham to hold out for the possibility of a move to Arsenal or Manchester United. West Ham want about £9m for their captain, who submitted a transfer request after feeling he was not part of Alan Curbishley's long-term plans."
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2089900,00.html
he's kidding isnt he! after this years half assed, dont give a fuck attitude i doubt it
Wednesday, May 23, 2007
Yossi to sign new deal!
Various sources are quoted as saying Yossi Benayoun is on the verge of signing improved terms with West Ham for 5 years. Personally I think this is a good move as he is one of our best players and if Carlos was to leave then we would be serverely lacking in creativity without the likes of Yossi.
In other news we apparently after Fulham keeper Annti Niemi as competition for Green and suprise suprise another centre half in Boro's Chris Riggott.
In other news we apparently after Fulham keeper Annti Niemi as competition for Green and suprise suprise another centre half in Boro's Chris Riggott.
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To take the next level we need to buy some really good players, unfortunately i dont think curbs is the man to do that. The amount of money he spent during the Jan transfer window and on those type of players really shows me he is not the man to take the club into the elite.
I mean Chris Riggot? He cant even break into an ordinary middlesborough side on a consistent basis yet we are buying him? How is he that much better than what we have? They should be scouring the european leagues or getting really good quality players that are clearly better than what you have. I dont know, i could be wrong but lets see how it all pans out.
TheRedRisky said...
The News about Yossi is great
And Anon Its still just a rumour. And the amount we spent in January was almost necessary, admittedly 4/6 players flopped. Upson was an unlucky move due to injury and once Tevez and Zamora hit form Kepa didn't get a look in, same goes for Davenport once Collins hit form. Though Quashie was a shit move.
But Lucas Neill was awesome once he got back from injury and LBM was playing well at the end.
i do NOT rate Niemi look else where curbs and i agree with Dave in the other post, we do not need Viduka.
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Yeah I can see the point, but I guess my point was we spent an enormousamoutn of money on them. Lucas is a decent move for sure because the right back situation was dire, but 3 million pounds for Devenport, 7.5 mill for Upson? I mean Nemanja Vidic cost less from memory and he is a far better player. Upson has also always been injury prone. Thats my concern, I know they are rumours but the players we are linked with is a worry. Agree on Viduka, in fact I rate him highly BUT we have the next generation Viduka in a fully-fit Ashton. He links up well, can pass and bring others into play and hold up the ball as well as finish. No need to have two of the exact player.
Agree with Dave though, we need a striker and a top class midfielder, I rate Parker highly but he is another player regularly on the sideline with injury.
Anyway hope the club can really take the next step forward. It will be an interesting off-season.
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Anon - totally agrre with the likes of Riggott et al but lets not judge Curbs until he's at least signed the player. These are rumours mate - we'll be linked with alot more before anybody actually signs.
Also I wouldn't judge him on January. I thought Upson was a bit of a coup and we were unlucky with his injury. 7.5M was over priced but it is what you have to pay to get players in January when your team is in the poo.
The only signing I have been totally against so far is Quashie - what a total bag of shite!
Davenport - jury is still out for me - I saw a couple of good games from him up until the nightmare he had at Charlton.
Melbournehammer said...
http://www.westhamonline.net/forum_flat.php?1660578||1||
Interesting read about what Igoe and Duxbury said at the Fans forum last night
TheRedRisky said...
From above article -
The new kit will have a shelf life of only ONE YEAR and as mentioned home kit launch June away at Aug 4th friendly.
I have to wait til my birthday in order to get the kit the shirt i like better :(
Lucas Neil is seen as the main man - will also drive the club forward, potential to tour Aussie next year as he is huge out there and WHUFC are getting alot of press from him at the club.
I Certainly fucking hope so! It would be huge, seeing as i havent seen west ham live in 10 years. If they do and dont play in Brissie, ill fly to fucking sydney or wherever they are playing! :p
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Guys... lets not get involved in over optimism as seems to happen at the irons most summers... We have stayed up by the skin of our teeth and our number one priority is to make sure that we are safe... Yes we have a new Chairman and yes we have 40M to spend... but lets remember where we are... Liverpool spend this much every year and only just making it top 4 every year... Villa had shit loads to spend and O'Neil as manager and where really out the bottom half. Lets remember who we support and what success looks like.. To me staying up and if we can get players to support the ones we have then that is great... we need to have some cover for the 1st team otherwise there is too much pressure on them. Come on lets get behind the lads and be honest with ourselves... If we can stay in the league safely this season than that is a massive improvement on last season..
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fuckin love it, we need yossi... he's brilliant, at times he's been our best playmaker... keep this yid cuz he's our yid!!
also cinfirmed to to go are sheringham and mears... there's also rumours of west ham signin knightly from wolves... seen him play against west brom... he had a decent match...
mr west ham bret
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The person curbs should look at buying is John Stead, he's a quality player and we could buy him for a fair little fee.
As for the contract with Benayoun, that's good, he's a skillful player but just needs to buffen up a bit.
I Love Eggert!!!
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Eggy talked the Champions League talk, but look at the two teams playing in the final tonight. We need to keep a player like to Tevez to have those aspirations.
Then again, Curbs is our manager, so he'll probably sell him to buy Franny Jeffers.
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"I used to be New Labour but when I started making money, I started to appreciate just how good Margaret Thatcher and her policies were to me" - Ian Wright does politics.
beggers said...
Just got off the KUMB site. Below are some highlights from the fans forum last night.
Tevez in on a 3 yr deal and we will try and keep him. But if another club comes for him and he wants to go, we can't stop him from leaving.
We'll be in a new stadium within 3 yrs!
Teddy, Newton and Mears have already gone.
Yossi looks like staying.
NRC looks like going, although we've not been approached by anyone, at the moment, for him.
Looking at bringing in 2 to 3 'world class' players. Probably from the PL but maybe from Europe?
Lucas is considered the main man at the club.
West Ham to tour OZ in the off season next year. Lovely!
That's the highlights anyway.
Onto this post. Keeping Yossi is critical IMO. When he is on, he's what we're all about. Great player and it looks like he's staying.
Thought comments on Curbs signings in Jan were a bit harsh. TBH they kept us up. If your trying to buy in Jan. your in the shit and the only players your gonna get are misfits and those who are not happy where they are. You will also pay over the odds for them, that's a given. Not a lot of choice really. Lucas Neill was the main reason we stayed up IMO. Brilliant signing. LBM was crap, but he came good for the last few games. He looked a bit unfit to me so the off season will do him the world of good. I reckon he'll be good for us next season. Davenport did OK but we needed a central defender at the time and he did the job most of the time. Good squad player. Upson supposed to be OK, but I'll have to take the word of others on him. Quashie did OK, but was brought in for some experience I suspect. Blanco was just a loan deal, no risk, if it worked great, if it didn't, who cares! If you look at Upson, Lucas and LBM, they were all club captains, so the pattern was obvious, he was tring to bring in professional football players to get some stability in a dressing room that seemed to have lost their fight and had forgotten their resposibilites as professional football players. It worked, so I think Curbs did well.
With regards to transfers,most names being thrown around at this early stage will just be rumour, so I don't take too much notice. Given we have time and money on our side, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride.
I'm with Micky, although I can't wait for the first kick of the ball, I just want to have a competative season and a decent Cup run. Any talk of CL or UEFA is bollocks considering the season we've just had. I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious, just to be realistic and give the club time to build the team.
The futures looking CLARET AND BLUE lads.
WEST HAM TILL I DIE
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Heres what the shirts are going to look like in 07/08
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/Kunny-funt/WestHamkit07-08Home.png
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/Kunny-funt/WestHamkit07-08Away.jpg
There's a dark blue one too which I dont have a picture of..
As you can see we've changed sponser to XL Airlines..
beggers said...
Fantastic he's stay'n. Great player.
See carroll, Konch and Pantsil are all on the transfer list.
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Isnt it funny how at the end of the season EVERY player is RUMOURED to be going to EVERY club ffs how about waiting until they are signed Hammers before we go saying who is a good signing or a bad signing.I disagree with you anon that you seem to have the opinion that curbs cannot buy the right players, i personally believe the signings of both Davenport and Upson will be beneficial and Neill goes without saying and also believe that lbm will be quality for us. On that note there is no way Lucas would have signed for us if he didnot believe in the club or CURBS.We need to definately sign a quality left back,central midfielder and striker.I look fwd to the coming weeks to see who wishes to come and ply their trade at the HAMMERS,me for one is quietly confident of some more quality wearing our beloved shirt
norven munky said...
why are Derby such longshots against West Brom? They finished 8 points clear of West Brom and yet the odds are $1.55 WBA, $2.30 Derby. To win in 90 mins they are $4.10...whats up with that?
I have a treble going with AC Milan into Hawthawn (who beat top of the table West Coast) into Derby.
norven munky said...
I was off with the $4.10 that was the odds for Derby to be winning at half time :). It was $3.30 to win in 90 mins and $2.30 just to win.
I did clean up tho :) (Not as much as Micky and his jammy golf bet tho!
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said...To take the next level we need to buy some really good players, unfortunately i dont think curbs is the man to do that. The amount of money he spent during the Jan transfer window and on those type of players really shows me he is not the man to take the club into the elite.
I mean Chris Riggot? He cant even break into an ordinary middlesborough side on a consistent basis yet we are buying him? How is he that much better than what we have? They should be scouring the european leagues or getting really good quality players that are clearly better than what you have. I dont know, i could be wrong but lets see how it all pans out.
TheRedRisky said...The News about Yossi is great
And Anon Its still just a rumour. And the amount we spent in January was almost necessary, admittedly 4/6 players flopped. Upson was an unlucky move due to injury and once Tevez and Zamora hit form Kepa didn't get a look in, same goes for Davenport once Collins hit form. Though Quashie was a shit move.
But Lucas Neill was awesome once he got back from injury and LBM was playing well at the end.
i do NOT rate Niemi look else where curbs and i agree with Dave in the other post, we do not need Viduka.
said...Yeah I can see the point, but I guess my point was we spent an enormousamoutn of money on them. Lucas is a decent move for sure because the right back situation was dire, but 3 million pounds for Devenport, 7.5 mill for Upson? I mean Nemanja Vidic cost less from memory and he is a far better player. Upson has also always been injury prone. Thats my concern, I know they are rumours but the players we are linked with is a worry. Agree on Viduka, in fact I rate him highly BUT we have the next generation Viduka in a fully-fit Ashton. He links up well, can pass and bring others into play and hold up the ball as well as finish. No need to have two of the exact player.
Agree with Dave though, we need a striker and a top class midfielder, I rate Parker highly but he is another player regularly on the sideline with injury.
Anyway hope the club can really take the next step forward. It will be an interesting off-season.
said...Anon - totally agrre with the likes of Riggott et al but lets not judge Curbs until he's at least signed the player. These are rumours mate - we'll be linked with alot more before anybody actually signs.
Also I wouldn't judge him on January. I thought Upson was a bit of a coup and we were unlucky with his injury. 7.5M was over priced but it is what you have to pay to get players in January when your team is in the poo.
The only signing I have been totally against so far is Quashie - what a total bag of shite!
Davenport - jury is still out for me - I saw a couple of good games from him up until the nightmare he had at Charlton.
Melbournehammer said...http://www.westhamonline.net/forum_flat.php?1660578||1||
Interesting read about what Igoe and Duxbury said at the Fans forum last night
TheRedRisky said...From above article -
The new kit will have a shelf life of only ONE YEAR and as mentioned home kit launch June away at Aug 4th friendly.
I have to wait til my birthday in order to get the kit the shirt i like better :(
Lucas Neil is seen as the main man - will also drive the club forward, potential to tour Aussie next year as he is huge out there and WHUFC are getting alot of press from him at the club.
I Certainly fucking hope so! It would be huge, seeing as i havent seen west ham live in 10 years. If they do and dont play in Brissie, ill fly to fucking sydney or wherever they are playing! :p
said...Guys... lets not get involved in over optimism as seems to happen at the irons most summers... We have stayed up by the skin of our teeth and our number one priority is to make sure that we are safe... Yes we have a new Chairman and yes we have 40M to spend... but lets remember where we are... Liverpool spend this much every year and only just making it top 4 every year... Villa had shit loads to spend and O'Neil as manager and where really out the bottom half. Lets remember who we support and what success looks like.. To me staying up and if we can get players to support the ones we have then that is great... we need to have some cover for the 1st team otherwise there is too much pressure on them. Come on lets get behind the lads and be honest with ourselves... If we can stay in the league safely this season than that is a massive improvement on last season..
said...fuckin love it, we need yossi... he's brilliant, at times he's been our best playmaker... keep this yid cuz he's our yid!!
also cinfirmed to to go are sheringham and mears... there's also rumours of west ham signin knightly from wolves... seen him play against west brom... he had a decent match...
mr west ham bret
said...The person curbs should look at buying is John Stead, he's a quality player and we could buy him for a fair little fee.
As for the contract with Benayoun, that's good, he's a skillful player but just needs to buffen up a bit.
I Love Eggert!!!
said...Eggy talked the Champions League talk, but look at the two teams playing in the final tonight. We need to keep a player like to Tevez to have those aspirations.
Then again, Curbs is our manager, so he'll probably sell him to buy Franny Jeffers.
said..."I used to be New Labour but when I started making money, I started to appreciate just how good Margaret Thatcher and her policies were to me" - Ian Wright does politics.
beggers said...Just got off the KUMB site. Below are some highlights from the fans forum last night.
Tevez in on a 3 yr deal and we will try and keep him. But if another club comes for him and he wants to go, we can't stop him from leaving.
We'll be in a new stadium within 3 yrs!
Teddy, Newton and Mears have already gone.
Yossi looks like staying.
NRC looks like going, although we've not been approached by anyone, at the moment, for him.
Looking at bringing in 2 to 3 'world class' players. Probably from the PL but maybe from Europe?
Lucas is considered the main man at the club.
West Ham to tour OZ in the off season next year. Lovely!
That's the highlights anyway.
Onto this post. Keeping Yossi is critical IMO. When he is on, he's what we're all about. Great player and it looks like he's staying.
Thought comments on Curbs signings in Jan were a bit harsh. TBH they kept us up. If your trying to buy in Jan. your in the shit and the only players your gonna get are misfits and those who are not happy where they are. You will also pay over the odds for them, that's a given. Not a lot of choice really. Lucas Neill was the main reason we stayed up IMO. Brilliant signing. LBM was crap, but he came good for the last few games. He looked a bit unfit to me so the off season will do him the world of good. I reckon he'll be good for us next season. Davenport did OK but we needed a central defender at the time and he did the job most of the time. Good squad player. Upson supposed to be OK, but I'll have to take the word of others on him. Quashie did OK, but was brought in for some experience I suspect. Blanco was just a loan deal, no risk, if it worked great, if it didn't, who cares! If you look at Upson, Lucas and LBM, they were all club captains, so the pattern was obvious, he was tring to bring in professional football players to get some stability in a dressing room that seemed to have lost their fight and had forgotten their resposibilites as professional football players. It worked, so I think Curbs did well.
With regards to transfers,most names being thrown around at this early stage will just be rumour, so I don't take too much notice. Given we have time and money on our side, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride.
I'm with Micky, although I can't wait for the first kick of the ball, I just want to have a competative season and a decent Cup run. Any talk of CL or UEFA is bollocks considering the season we've just had. I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious, just to be realistic and give the club time to build the team.
The futures looking CLARET AND BLUE lads.
WEST HAM TILL I DIE
said...Heres what the shirts are going to look like in 07/08
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/Kunny-funt/WestHamkit07-08Home.png
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/Kunny-funt/WestHamkit07-08Away.jpg
There's a dark blue one too which I dont have a picture of..
As you can see we've changed sponser to XL Airlines..
beggers said...Fantastic he's stay'n. Great player.
See carroll, Konch and Pantsil are all on the transfer list.
said...Isnt it funny how at the end of the season EVERY player is RUMOURED to be going to EVERY club ffs how about waiting until they are signed Hammers before we go saying who is a good signing or a bad signing.I disagree with you anon that you seem to have the opinion that curbs cannot buy the right players, i personally believe the signings of both Davenport and Upson will be beneficial and Neill goes without saying and also believe that lbm will be quality for us. On that note there is no way Lucas would have signed for us if he didnot believe in the club or CURBS.We need to definately sign a quality left back,central midfielder and striker.I look fwd to the coming weeks to see who wishes to come and ply their trade at the HAMMERS,me for one is quietly confident of some more quality wearing our beloved shirt
norven munky said...why are Derby such longshots against West Brom? They finished 8 points clear of West Brom and yet the odds are $1.55 WBA, $2.30 Derby. To win in 90 mins they are $4.10...whats up with that?
I have a treble going with AC Milan into Hawthawn (who beat top of the table West Coast) into Derby.
norven munky said...I was off with the $4.10 that was the odds for Derby to be winning at half time :). It was $3.30 to win in 90 mins and $2.30 just to win.
I did clean up tho :) (Not as much as Micky and his jammy golf bet tho!
Sunday, May 20, 2007
Squad Analysis
Who is going? What do we need? Where do we require cover?
It's hard to know what we need till we know who is going.
We definitely need a left back as at least cover for McCartney. Cover for Neill at RB. A top level centre mid fielder. Cover at least on both wings. At least one striker since we could see Tevez, Harewood & Teddy exiting. Don't need a keeper since Curbs obviously thinks Collins is cover for Green :)
£40 million has been promised by Eggie but is that to be supplemented by the proceeds of the rumoured mass clearout?
Post your thoughts...
Keepers
Green (1st choice)
Carroll
Walker
Stech
Left backs
McCartney (1st choice)
Konchesky (not rated by Curbs or me, likely to be leaving)
Right backs
Neill (1st choice)
Paintsil (not a sniff since Curbs, not much before even that..leaving?)
Mears (not even listed on official squad list?)
Centre backs
Collins (1st choice)
Ferdinand (1st choice but rumoured to be moved on)
Davenport (been warming bench, looked useful but some clangers effected confidence?)
Upson (injured but highly rated)
Gabbidon (injured)
Utility defenders
Spector (regular on bench)
Dailly
Centre midfielders
Reo-coker (1st choice but big chance he'll go)
Noble (1st choice)
Mullins (been coming off of bench)
Quashie (not had a look in during 9 game run in)
Left Midfielders
Boamorte (been preferred to Matty recently, finally contributingsomething in last few games)
Etherington (likely to leave)
Reid
Right Midfielders
Yossi (1st choice, looked likely to be going but may have hada change of heart)
Newton (been a long time since he has featured)
Utility midfielders
Bowyer (was playing regularly but left out of last month run in)
Strikers
Tevez (imho is likely to leave, but being diplomatic in press)
Zamora (1st choice)
Harewood (likely to leave)
Blanco (going, loan deal up, looking for other prem offers)
Cole (bench at best)
Ashton (injured, back next season. Clear first choice when fully fit)
Sheringham (likely to be leaving)
Ephraim
It's hard to know what we need till we know who is going.
We definitely need a left back as at least cover for McCartney. Cover for Neill at RB. A top level centre mid fielder. Cover at least on both wings. At least one striker since we could see Tevez, Harewood & Teddy exiting. Don't need a keeper since Curbs obviously thinks Collins is cover for Green :)
£40 million has been promised by Eggie but is that to be supplemented by the proceeds of the rumoured mass clearout?
Post your thoughts...
Keepers
Green (1st choice)
Carroll
Walker
Stech
Left backs
McCartney (1st choice)
Konchesky (not rated by Curbs or me, likely to be leaving)
Right backs
Neill (1st choice)
Paintsil (not a sniff since Curbs, not much before even that..leaving?)
Mears (not even listed on official squad list?)
Centre backs
Collins (1st choice)
Ferdinand (1st choice but rumoured to be moved on)
Davenport (been warming bench, looked useful but some clangers effected confidence?)
Upson (injured but highly rated)
Gabbidon (injured)
Utility defenders
Spector (regular on bench)
Dailly
Centre midfielders
Reo-coker (1st choice but big chance he'll go)
Noble (1st choice)
Mullins (been coming off of bench)
Quashie (not had a look in during 9 game run in)
Left Midfielders
Boamorte (been preferred to Matty recently, finally contributingsomething in last few games)
Etherington (likely to leave)
Reid
Right Midfielders
Yossi (1st choice, looked likely to be going but may have hada change of heart)
Newton (been a long time since he has featured)
Utility midfielders
Bowyer (was playing regularly but left out of last month run in)
Strikers
Tevez (imho is likely to leave, but being diplomatic in press)
Zamora (1st choice)
Harewood (likely to leave)
Blanco (going, loan deal up, looking for other prem offers)
Cole (bench at best)
Ashton (injured, back next season. Clear first choice when fully fit)
Sheringham (likely to be leaving)
Ephraim
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Dave said...
Anon - I assume you mean whubris?? He has moved to canberra and has been busy and waiting to get an internet connection up and running - hopefully he'll be back soon as he is greatly missed :-)
Whubris along with myself & norvern munky started this site. It was originally suggested by the AWOL leggenda dicanio (I hope he still reads from time to time) after we were sending about 40 emails a day around to each other with opinion pieces. :-) The site was born to unclog our inboxes - There's the site history over with - LOL!
Dave said...
Back on subject I think we'll probably get Darren Bent from Charlton. I'd like to see us get a decent left back and use Linda as cover rather than first choice. I can see us signing Scott Parker to replace NRC. I'd actually like to see NRC stay after his performances in the final run in but obviously his head is not right and he doesn't want to play for us. If he sorted his attitude out then he would be a great player for us but he obviously just doesn't want to be at West Ham for some reason.
I really would like to try and get Marlon back to form rather than sell him. I just feel someone is going to pick him up on the cheap and he will rediscover his form of old. Maybe if he was in a side that was not struggling from the begining of the season and partnered Ashton again he could get it back. Unfortunately I think he's gone though.
norven munky said...
in evaluating a players worth I think it is more important to look at how they contributed when we were struggling, rather than what they did when we were on a roll.
Not many of the squad measured up in that regard.
One things for sure, there's gonna be a lot of revolving door activity in E13 in the summer.
norven munky said...
tj that's very good of you to offer your services..that could be the deal breaker that brings Bent to West Ham :)
norven munky said...
Gabbs has been given the all clear by our medical staff to join the Wales squad for their friendly against New Zealand and is expected to play at least 45 mins.
Collins will also play.
said...
What would you guys think about getting Viduka. I know a lot of people would say he is old and dont rate him but he is in good form and has got 10+ goals in the last few seasons. He finshed equal 4th on the top scorers this season but played way less games than everyone around him. I would love to see another aussie at upton park.
Melbournehammer said...
I'll start with defence.
Mears sell him to Derby for what we paid for him.If they get promoted ask for another 1mil.
Konchesky accept any offer of 2 mil or above.
Paintsil let him go
Davenport I know he has his critics but I don't mind him.I doubt other premier league clubs will come in for him and lower division clubs can only afford 1mil max.I say keep him for cover.
Spector He is only young and defenders take time to mature.Keep as cover.
Upson hopefully will be fit.
Neill,Collins and McCartney definite stays.
Gabbidon.I agree with NM that you learn more about your players during bad times than when things are going well.I have been disappointed with him this season.I know he has been injured but a few things suggest to me he might be on the way out.For those that remember the Reading debacle,Curbs was filthy on Gabbidon.Gabbidon then came out and said he would leave if we went down.I would not be too upset if he left.
Anton played well at the end.Gave away too many fouls that were costly.A loose unpredictable cannon.Expendable.
That leaves a defence list of
Neill
Collins
Upson
McCartney
Davenport
Spector
Tomkins ( I think that's his name)
Latest rumours in the tabloids suggest Ben Haim from Bolton and Samuel from Villa are West Ham targets.
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Dave said...Anon - I assume you mean whubris?? He has moved to canberra and has been busy and waiting to get an internet connection up and running - hopefully he'll be back soon as he is greatly missed :-)
Whubris along with myself & norvern munky started this site. It was originally suggested by the AWOL leggenda dicanio (I hope he still reads from time to time) after we were sending about 40 emails a day around to each other with opinion pieces. :-) The site was born to unclog our inboxes - There's the site history over with - LOL!
Dave said...Back on subject I think we'll probably get Darren Bent from Charlton. I'd like to see us get a decent left back and use Linda as cover rather than first choice. I can see us signing Scott Parker to replace NRC. I'd actually like to see NRC stay after his performances in the final run in but obviously his head is not right and he doesn't want to play for us. If he sorted his attitude out then he would be a great player for us but he obviously just doesn't want to be at West Ham for some reason.
I really would like to try and get Marlon back to form rather than sell him. I just feel someone is going to pick him up on the cheap and he will rediscover his form of old. Maybe if he was in a side that was not struggling from the begining of the season and partnered Ashton again he could get it back. Unfortunately I think he's gone though.
norven munky said...in evaluating a players worth I think it is more important to look at how they contributed when we were struggling, rather than what they did when we were on a roll.
Not many of the squad measured up in that regard.
One things for sure, there's gonna be a lot of revolving door activity in E13 in the summer.
norven munky said...tj that's very good of you to offer your services..that could be the deal breaker that brings Bent to West Ham :)
norven munky said...Gabbs has been given the all clear by our medical staff to join the Wales squad for their friendly against New Zealand and is expected to play at least 45 mins.
Collins will also play.
said...What would you guys think about getting Viduka. I know a lot of people would say he is old and dont rate him but he is in good form and has got 10+ goals in the last few seasons. He finshed equal 4th on the top scorers this season but played way less games than everyone around him. I would love to see another aussie at upton park.
Melbournehammer said...I'll start with defence.
Mears sell him to Derby for what we paid for him.If they get promoted ask for another 1mil.
Konchesky accept any offer of 2 mil or above.
Paintsil let him go
Davenport I know he has his critics but I don't mind him.I doubt other premier league clubs will come in for him and lower division clubs can only afford 1mil max.I say keep him for cover.
Spector He is only young and defenders take time to mature.Keep as cover.
Upson hopefully will be fit.
Neill,Collins and McCartney definite stays.
Gabbidon.I agree with NM that you learn more about your players during bad times than when things are going well.I have been disappointed with him this season.I know he has been injured but a few things suggest to me he might be on the way out.For those that remember the Reading debacle,Curbs was filthy on Gabbidon.Gabbidon then came out and said he would leave if we went down.I would not be too upset if he left.
Anton played well at the end.Gave away too many fouls that were costly.A loose unpredictable cannon.Expendable.
That leaves a defence list of
Neill
Collins
Upson
McCartney
Davenport
Spector
Tomkins ( I think that's his name)
Latest rumours in the tabloids suggest Ben Haim from Bolton and Samuel from Villa are West Ham targets.
Tuesday, May 15, 2007
No - It's Football You Pratt!
Sheffield Utd Chairman Kevin McCabe:
"The FA Premier League should have a good night's sleep and think `is what has happened fair?'
"The fans of one club are in despair because their club has been relegated. To have the kick in the teeth of losing our (Premiership) status because we have played by the rules when another club hasn't... it ain't cricket."
LMAO!
"The FA Premier League should have a good night's sleep and think `is what has happened fair?'
"The fans of one club are in despair because their club has been relegated. To have the kick in the teeth of losing our (Premiership) status because we have played by the rules when another club hasn't... it ain't cricket."
LMAO!
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TheRedRisky said...
Off topic again, but the last month ive been compiling a list in my head, of all the times that if luck had gone our way it could have been a different season. I was worried i would have to write this if we had gone down, but its not so conqequential anymore :P
1. Harewood missing a 1 v 1 against liverpool - Shot wide
2. Harewood missing a 1 v 1 against Villa - You know the one 7 min sin where Sorenson fucked up his clearence and passed stragiht to harewood, who then missed incredibly badly
3. Benayouns lob cleared off the line against reading in the last minute
4. Tevez vs Wigan - It was deflected onto the post, but it would have been 1 -0 to us but instead wigan scored 2 goals in the next 10 min
5. West Ham vs Fulham in general - If only Zamora hadnt been sent off, if only there was 5 minutes of injury time ETC
6. Milner Vs West ham - IF that wasnt offside i dont know what was
7. Villa Vs West ham again - About 3 shots? cleared off the line in the last 3 minutes
8.Harewood vs Watford - Missed penalty
9.Spurs - Tevez narrowly missed a shot which would have put us 4-3 up in injury time, instead it went the other way.
In truth im no longer complaining about the spurs match cos it kickstarted our season, but imagine if some of those had gone our way instead of against us. It may have been avery different season indeed.
said...
i have never felt as much hate for 2 clubs before, i thought i hated chelsea and the yids, fuckin wigan and sheffield, i'de love to throttle that old cunt whelan
said...
all i gotta say is neil warnock's sheff utd is sheff wed in disguise... fuckin whinging mugs, sod off to championships u cunts!
mr bret
said...
Look out they have brung the big guns in.
Fifa will investigate Tevez saga
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6657697.stm
This is stupid it has nothing to do with FIFA the F.A can make their own decisions.
Just except it everyone, West Ham deserve to be in the Premier League.
said...
Thing is, who are they going to replace Poll with?
If there was someone better, he'd be reffing in the league alreday.
It could get worse.
said...
Red
Love you Love for the Hammers it is wonderful... but lets not fall into the trap of thinking that everyone is against us... they say things even themselves up in a season.... Man U and Arsenal had about a million shots in the games at there gaff... Not sure if you see the Blackburn game... nuff said...
We should celebrate the good things that "have" happened... We were shocking at the start of the season, no ifs or buts about it... but we got it together in the nick of time.. and seriously I mean the nick of time...
It's interesting to see that these people are moaning and they probably will all through the english summer.. but I will be amazed if anything changes and we need to make the most of it....
(What odds that we get Shef U away in the FA Cup.. should be a good game... ha ha....)
And finally.... Fuck off you northern yorkshire tossers... fuck off back to the shit league you should be in... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
TheRedRisky said...
Micky,if wed gone down id had that list ready, but yes i can see your point about how much luck we had at the end and i did see the Blackburn game :p
Either way it doesnt matter now, the point is we escaped relegation and now we have ot build on it
said...
West Ham in line for huge Tevez windfall
West Ham United are set to pick up a multi-million-pound windfall if they sell Carlos Tevez this summer, a situation which is bound to infuriate the "gang of four" clubs who continue to contest the striker's right to play in the Premiership.
TheRedRisky said...
C+P BBC
Blades begin Tevez legal battle
Carlos Tevez
Tevez joined West Ham along with Javier Mascherano in August
Sheffield United have launched a legal challenge to the Premier League's decision not to dock West Ham points in the Carlos Tevez case.
The Blades' lawyers are challenging the decision to fine West Ham rather than dock them points and cancel the Argentine's registration.
United are calling for that decision to be set aside and for a new tribunal to make its decision "within four weeks".
Until then, they want all preparations for next season to be "set aside".
A spokesman for the Premier League confirmed they had received United's request for arbitration and said they were "considering it at the moment".
He also confirmed that only Sheffield United had made a legal challenge.
Were the Premier League to consent to arbitration, they and United would nominate one member each of the tribunal.
These two members would then choose a chairman. The tribunal would effectively have the powers of a court and the parties would agree in advance to abide by any decision reached.
United have called for the tribunal to be establised by the end of this week.
The club is also challenging the Premier League's "conduct in failing to conduct an adequate investigation into the continued fielding of Tevez after the 27 April decision, despite serious questions over his eligibility".
TheRedRisky said...
And i know i keep post but the fucking premier league has in the last 3 days got 7 of my youtube videos removed
said...
You're Not Fooling Anybody
Opened Sheffield United chief executive Kevin McCabe in the whiney, whiney press conference televised on Sky Sports News this morning:
"We have an obligation as a Premiership club..."
Stop right there, sunshine
:)
norven munky said...
Warnock is such an arrogant pratt..he is just so easy to hate...I hope he does get another prem job so we can play a hand in relegating him all over again...
from the mirror :-
"Warnock, 58, whose United contract was up this summer, wants one more challenge before retiring and is after a job in the Premiership or with an ambitious Championship club.
He is already eyeing up Leicester, while Crystal Palace chairman Simon Jordan is also a fan.
Warnock added: "I'm sure my name will be linked with most vacancies because I'm so much better.
"There will be a lot of chairmen who'll think, I'll have a bit of Neil Warnock and the fans would be quite pleased to get Neil Warnock wherever I go.
"I don't want to go anywhere. I want to go somewhere with a chance of being successful quite quickly."
norven munky said...
I also see the SU chairman has suggested the PL have a 21 team competition next season and relegate 4 teams at the end of it..not that's it gonna happen but how impressed would the team finishing 4th from bottom be with SU. And the fans of the team who get the bye each week and no game to watch.
TheRedRisky said...
According to the daily mail we can buy Tevez for 40 million pounds.
I love him but i dont know if we should spend the WHOLE transfer kitty on him. Imagine if he got injured for the whole season like ashton did.
No offesne to carlos but wed probbaly be better bringing in a 10-15 Mil striker to partner ashton and then look to buy a left back a centre mid to relpace NRC (if he goes)
Just my opinion
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Keep reading that Yossi wants to go too. Hope it's all agent talk as I'm a big fan. I have a feeling that with some new signings and a settled side we haven't seen the best of him yet. Hope my new best mate Curbs can keep him.
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scott parker? Fuck off.
I still have my doubts about Curbs. Tevez saved us, not Curbs.
If he just brings in average English players because he can manage them more easily than good players who know more about football than he does, then we'll struggle again next year.
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yea mate been hearin dat shit bout bellamy, fuckin top class wanker... if this is wat we're signing, mite as well put us to rest and throw us in the fizzy pop...
bollocks!
mr bret
said...
Anon, I still have my doubts about Curbs also but he has galvanized the team. As well as Tevez, I think Green, Collins, Yossi, Neill and Zamora were all on top form in those last few games. I think like King Egg has reminded us we're not a club who needs money now and Curbs is not at Charlton. Hopefully this will mean that Curbs will not scrape around for players and we can entice some real talent to the club. I think the verdict is still out for Curbs as a coach but he has shown he has what it takes in the heat of battle and I commend him for that.
said...
THE FA Cup final was atrocious. Hype can’t keep the league going forever. The big teams are going to have to start producing sooner rather than later.
Could you imagine if both those teams played the Champions League final?
It nearly happened.
Dave said...
LOL- the Cup final was always going to be shit! When has game between Man U and Chelscum been entertaining??? Last season proves you need West Ham there to make it interesting :-)
Beex - in good wrap for curbs shocker!!! LMAO! :-)
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TheRedRisky said...Off topic again, but the last month ive been compiling a list in my head, of all the times that if luck had gone our way it could have been a different season. I was worried i would have to write this if we had gone down, but its not so conqequential anymore :P
1. Harewood missing a 1 v 1 against liverpool - Shot wide
2. Harewood missing a 1 v 1 against Villa - You know the one 7 min sin where Sorenson fucked up his clearence and passed stragiht to harewood, who then missed incredibly badly
3. Benayouns lob cleared off the line against reading in the last minute
4. Tevez vs Wigan - It was deflected onto the post, but it would have been 1 -0 to us but instead wigan scored 2 goals in the next 10 min
5. West Ham vs Fulham in general - If only Zamora hadnt been sent off, if only there was 5 minutes of injury time ETC
6. Milner Vs West ham - IF that wasnt offside i dont know what was
7. Villa Vs West ham again - About 3 shots? cleared off the line in the last 3 minutes
8.Harewood vs Watford - Missed penalty
9.Spurs - Tevez narrowly missed a shot which would have put us 4-3 up in injury time, instead it went the other way.
In truth im no longer complaining about the spurs match cos it kickstarted our season, but imagine if some of those had gone our way instead of against us. It may have been avery different season indeed.
said...i have never felt as much hate for 2 clubs before, i thought i hated chelsea and the yids, fuckin wigan and sheffield, i'de love to throttle that old cunt whelan
said...all i gotta say is neil warnock's sheff utd is sheff wed in disguise... fuckin whinging mugs, sod off to championships u cunts!
mr bret
said...Look out they have brung the big guns in.
Fifa will investigate Tevez saga
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6657697.stm
This is stupid it has nothing to do with FIFA the F.A can make their own decisions.
Just except it everyone, West Ham deserve to be in the Premier League.
said...Thing is, who are they going to replace Poll with?
If there was someone better, he'd be reffing in the league alreday.
It could get worse.
said...Red
Love you Love for the Hammers it is wonderful... but lets not fall into the trap of thinking that everyone is against us... they say things even themselves up in a season.... Man U and Arsenal had about a million shots in the games at there gaff... Not sure if you see the Blackburn game... nuff said...
We should celebrate the good things that "have" happened... We were shocking at the start of the season, no ifs or buts about it... but we got it together in the nick of time.. and seriously I mean the nick of time...
It's interesting to see that these people are moaning and they probably will all through the english summer.. but I will be amazed if anything changes and we need to make the most of it....
(What odds that we get Shef U away in the FA Cup.. should be a good game... ha ha....)
And finally.... Fuck off you northern yorkshire tossers... fuck off back to the shit league you should be in... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
TheRedRisky said...Micky,if wed gone down id had that list ready, but yes i can see your point about how much luck we had at the end and i did see the Blackburn game :p
Either way it doesnt matter now, the point is we escaped relegation and now we have ot build on it
said...West Ham in line for huge Tevez windfall
West Ham United are set to pick up a multi-million-pound windfall if they sell Carlos Tevez this summer, a situation which is bound to infuriate the "gang of four" clubs who continue to contest the striker's right to play in the Premiership.
TheRedRisky said...C+P BBC
Blades begin Tevez legal battle
Carlos Tevez
Tevez joined West Ham along with Javier Mascherano in August
Sheffield United have launched a legal challenge to the Premier League's decision not to dock West Ham points in the Carlos Tevez case.
The Blades' lawyers are challenging the decision to fine West Ham rather than dock them points and cancel the Argentine's registration.
United are calling for that decision to be set aside and for a new tribunal to make its decision "within four weeks".
Until then, they want all preparations for next season to be "set aside".
A spokesman for the Premier League confirmed they had received United's request for arbitration and said they were "considering it at the moment".
He also confirmed that only Sheffield United had made a legal challenge.
Were the Premier League to consent to arbitration, they and United would nominate one member each of the tribunal.
These two members would then choose a chairman. The tribunal would effectively have the powers of a court and the parties would agree in advance to abide by any decision reached.
United have called for the tribunal to be establised by the end of this week.
The club is also challenging the Premier League's "conduct in failing to conduct an adequate investigation into the continued fielding of Tevez after the 27 April decision, despite serious questions over his eligibility".
TheRedRisky said...And i know i keep post but the fucking premier league has in the last 3 days got 7 of my youtube videos removed
said...You're Not Fooling Anybody
Opened Sheffield United chief executive Kevin McCabe in the whiney, whiney press conference televised on Sky Sports News this morning:
"We have an obligation as a Premiership club..."
Stop right there, sunshine
:)
norven munky said...Warnock is such an arrogant pratt..he is just so easy to hate...I hope he does get another prem job so we can play a hand in relegating him all over again...
from the mirror :-
"Warnock, 58, whose United contract was up this summer, wants one more challenge before retiring and is after a job in the Premiership or with an ambitious Championship club.
He is already eyeing up Leicester, while Crystal Palace chairman Simon Jordan is also a fan.
Warnock added: "I'm sure my name will be linked with most vacancies because I'm so much better.
"There will be a lot of chairmen who'll think, I'll have a bit of Neil Warnock and the fans would be quite pleased to get Neil Warnock wherever I go.
"I don't want to go anywhere. I want to go somewhere with a chance of being successful quite quickly."
norven munky said...I also see the SU chairman has suggested the PL have a 21 team competition next season and relegate 4 teams at the end of it..not that's it gonna happen but how impressed would the team finishing 4th from bottom be with SU. And the fans of the team who get the bye each week and no game to watch.
TheRedRisky said...According to the daily mail we can buy Tevez for 40 million pounds.
I love him but i dont know if we should spend the WHOLE transfer kitty on him. Imagine if he got injured for the whole season like ashton did.
No offesne to carlos but wed probbaly be better bringing in a 10-15 Mil striker to partner ashton and then look to buy a left back a centre mid to relpace NRC (if he goes)
Just my opinion
said...Keep reading that Yossi wants to go too. Hope it's all agent talk as I'm a big fan. I have a feeling that with some new signings and a settled side we haven't seen the best of him yet. Hope my new best mate Curbs can keep him.
said...scott parker? Fuck off.
I still have my doubts about Curbs. Tevez saved us, not Curbs.
If he just brings in average English players because he can manage them more easily than good players who know more about football than he does, then we'll struggle again next year.
said...yea mate been hearin dat shit bout bellamy, fuckin top class wanker... if this is wat we're signing, mite as well put us to rest and throw us in the fizzy pop...
bollocks!
mr bret
said...Anon, I still have my doubts about Curbs also but he has galvanized the team. As well as Tevez, I think Green, Collins, Yossi, Neill and Zamora were all on top form in those last few games. I think like King Egg has reminded us we're not a club who needs money now and Curbs is not at Charlton. Hopefully this will mean that Curbs will not scrape around for players and we can entice some real talent to the club. I think the verdict is still out for Curbs as a coach but he has shown he has what it takes in the heat of battle and I commend him for that.
said...THE FA Cup final was atrocious. Hype can’t keep the league going forever. The big teams are going to have to start producing sooner rather than later.
Could you imagine if both those teams played the Champions League final?
It nearly happened.
Dave said...LOL- the Cup final was always going to be shit! When has game between Man U and Chelscum been entertaining??? Last season proves you need West Ham there to make it interesting :-)
Beex - in good wrap for curbs shocker!!! LMAO! :-)
Monday, May 14, 2007
Buy Carlos & Thanks for the Memories
Fuck me we took 21 points from a possible 27 to stay up and in the process did the double against Man United & Arsenal!
Rumour has it some people watched the game on a stream from China ;-) and to those people all I have to say is Do Do Doo Nigel Moto Rokr.
I'm half cut, post your comments you cnuts...
Rumour has it some people watched the game on a stream from China ;-) and to those people all I have to say is Do Do Doo Nigel Moto Rokr.
I'm half cut, post your comments you cnuts...
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No munky you are mistaken this is an Australian IP but I'm sure if you look at the dodgy log on some chinese website you'll find this IP many times between 00:00 hours and 1:45 hours.
said...
Sorry I'm confused??? What exactly do you mean You fuck Dave Whelan, in particular television Neil warnock?
said...
YOU FUCKING BEAUTY watched it on the sopcast site ESPN and in english too.Was always going to be our day.Bring on 2008 and to you Warnock you had your chance to stay up and you BLEW it, no one else so suck shit.Lets hope we use the 45 mil being released to curbs brings in some real class.To Tevez a HUGE thankyou and good luck if you decide to leave.What an unbelievable feeling, only the Hammers can do this to us.GO U HAMMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
beggers said...
Fuck'n yeeeeesssss!!!!!!!!
See you in court you fuck'n novern monkeys!!! Not you Tony :)
CURBISHLEY IN!!!! Not a fucking word Beexie!!!!
norven munky said...
sweet :)
The reason I wanted Warnock down more than Wigan was that Jewell was on record as saying they only had themselves to blame and that the reason they were were they were was down to them...
Warnock has been moaning to any fucker that wanted to listen. (and the other poor fuckers that don't).
I am still in shock..mid march we had 20 points and were well fucked. Dave & I (and many others)had insualted ourselves against despair by taking the view we were down well and truly...it really was easier to deal with shit result after shit result when hope had been snuffed out...
But as is the West Ham way we took 21 points out of the last 9 games and stayed up.
C'mon you rip roaring hammers!!!
mike said...
Well done the lads and well done all you Ozzie supporters. Sorry I did not meet you in the Pig a couple of weeks ago. Went there on the Friday night but my daughter and I were in the air back to England when you were watching West Ham wop the Wigan. Great to know that there is such a following for the Hammers over there.
Mike
TheRedRisky said...
I went out with dean, bret and terry and we had the best fucking night. I Only just got home. I cant beleive we were 20th in march and now we have pulled off the greatest great escape ever.
You should all have come out! It was mad!
said...
Risky - NM & I had a piss up round Omar's place - the three of us are a bit worse for wear this morning. We fired up the old china broadcast! FUCKING AWESOME!
norven munky said...
WHU-AU leads the way in responsible mature commentary.
I listened to Curbs post match interview and I'm sure he said something like 'Beex is me biatchhh'
said...
Alright, alright, keep yer wigs on. I'd been waiting for this day.
CURBS IN!!!! YOU FUCKIN BEAUTIES. I'm eating humble pie for breakfast. Tis your turn Anon. PS - I WILL NOT SUCK YOUR KNOB DAVID. I reckon the League should now rehold the inquiry and say , "ok we dock West Ham 2 points, shove that up yer arse Warnock u fuckin John Conteh!!"
said...
If like me you didn't see the game and can't be arsed to wait till 5pm for the highlights on Fox. I found these little beauties on a KUMB thread, enjoy ;-) http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86663
said...
Woke up the whole family and bawled my eyes out.
Oh the sweet joy.
Looking very much forward to transfers now, lets see whos on that list that made Lucas Neill jump to WHU.
Luv yuse all!!!
Melbournehammer said...
I resorted to listening on radio via whutv.Connection dropped out at about 40 minutes into the first half.Tears of joy when I saw we had scored on the skysports live scores page.
Listened again at the start of the second half only to lose connection again.Got it back about 20 minutes into the half but was too scared to listen.Flicking between skysports and WHO.Checked on here to see if anyone was around but too scared to post in case I jinxed us.
Once we were safe, I turned on foxtel to watch Warnock's face as his side fell back to where they belong.
Geez after the last 5 seasons is anyone else up for midtable mediocrity next season or do we strap ourselves in for another rollcoaster ride.
Ain't this seasons highlights DVD going to be a special one.
norven munky said...
sob sob
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21726058-5001023,00.html
said...
FUCK YEAH what a night. I cant believe more of you didnt come to the pig, it was heaps of fun. We went crazy when we heard Tevez had scored and when we heard the final whistle had blown. What a great escape, it must surely go down as the greatest ever.
said...
Well, Well I cant farking believe it. How one earth we managed to stay up I will never know. The change of Noble moving into the midfield and Tevez finally hitting peak form did the trick. I must say that everything possible went our way. Could have lost 10-0 to the gooners but won, Big Sam resigns the week we play bolton and then Man U has the title wrapped up before we play them. Fantastic no idea how they did it but they stayed up. Now we just have to wait for the court case.
The only question for me - curbs may well solidify the club, but I hope he can spend the money he will be given wisely (which he hasnt so far - wasted it totally) and prove he can take his career and the might hammers to the next level.
In the meantime Warnock can get farked!
beggers said...
What a night, so happy it's hard to put into words. Getting out of the mess we were in has been nothing less than miraculous. Without a doubt the greatest escape of them all! Even Steve McQueen and David Attenborough would be looking at this and saying "fuck me, now that's an escape!"
Some things did go our way but we still had to win a lot of games, against good sides, to even give ourselves a chance and we did it. So I'm having none of this luck shit, we had to make it happen and no-one can tell me we didn't deserve to stay up.
All the teams around us had their fate in their own hands and they blew it.
So there's talk of court action, do me a favour!!!! we've had our punishment and I can't find anywhere where it says we must have points deducted. I still believe it's all bullshit anyway. Can you imagime court action and something comes of it then we appeal and they appeal, it would drag on forever. The FA have already said any further action is doomed so the "gang of four" all need to take a pill and have a good lie down.
What a result, LET'S GO FUCK'N MENTAL, LET'S GO FUCK'N MENTAL LALALA LA, LALALA LA.........
said...
I can't fuvcking believe it! There's only one Carlos Tevez!! Am back in the UK and watched it on Sky with with the split screen one half showing us one half Wigan.... First time back for three years and made my whole family sit through the game at our reunion! Wrnt fcking mental when TEVEZ scored, then sweated the secd half out...Fcking amazing! Bring on next season!
said...
well one things for sure...my liver and fragile emotions are going to appreciate a break
crazy....i still cant really believe it....i was sure we were going down....amazingi wish there was room for wigan to go down too but next year i guess
TheRedRisky said...
C+P BBC
Jewell resigns as Wigan manager
Wigan chairman Dave Whelan and manager Paul Jewell celebrate after the win at Sheffield United ensured the club's Premiership survival
Paul Jewell has resigned as Wigan boss - less than 24 hours after saving the Premiership club from relegation on the final day of the season.
TheRedRisky said...
And While we knew it was coming i personally didnt expect it to be so soon. Stuart Pearce got sacked
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said...No munky you are mistaken this is an Australian IP but I'm sure if you look at the dodgy log on some chinese website you'll find this IP many times between 00:00 hours and 1:45 hours.
said...Sorry I'm confused??? What exactly do you mean You fuck Dave Whelan, in particular television Neil warnock?
said...YOU FUCKING BEAUTY watched it on the sopcast site ESPN and in english too.Was always going to be our day.Bring on 2008 and to you Warnock you had your chance to stay up and you BLEW it, no one else so suck shit.Lets hope we use the 45 mil being released to curbs brings in some real class.To Tevez a HUGE thankyou and good luck if you decide to leave.What an unbelievable feeling, only the Hammers can do this to us.GO U HAMMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
beggers said...Fuck'n yeeeeesssss!!!!!!!!
See you in court you fuck'n novern monkeys!!! Not you Tony :)
CURBISHLEY IN!!!! Not a fucking word Beexie!!!!
norven munky said...sweet :)
The reason I wanted Warnock down more than Wigan was that Jewell was on record as saying they only had themselves to blame and that the reason they were were they were was down to them...
Warnock has been moaning to any fucker that wanted to listen. (and the other poor fuckers that don't).
I am still in shock..mid march we had 20 points and were well fucked. Dave & I (and many others)had insualted ourselves against despair by taking the view we were down well and truly...it really was easier to deal with shit result after shit result when hope had been snuffed out...
But as is the West Ham way we took 21 points out of the last 9 games and stayed up.
C'mon you rip roaring hammers!!!
mike said...Well done the lads and well done all you Ozzie supporters. Sorry I did not meet you in the Pig a couple of weeks ago. Went there on the Friday night but my daughter and I were in the air back to England when you were watching West Ham wop the Wigan. Great to know that there is such a following for the Hammers over there.
Mike
TheRedRisky said...I went out with dean, bret and terry and we had the best fucking night. I Only just got home. I cant beleive we were 20th in march and now we have pulled off the greatest great escape ever.
You should all have come out! It was mad!
said...Risky - NM & I had a piss up round Omar's place - the three of us are a bit worse for wear this morning. We fired up the old china broadcast! FUCKING AWESOME!
norven munky said...WHU-AU leads the way in responsible mature commentary.
I listened to Curbs post match interview and I'm sure he said something like 'Beex is me biatchhh'
said...Alright, alright, keep yer wigs on. I'd been waiting for this day.
CURBS IN!!!! YOU FUCKIN BEAUTIES. I'm eating humble pie for breakfast. Tis your turn Anon. PS - I WILL NOT SUCK YOUR KNOB DAVID. I reckon the League should now rehold the inquiry and say , "ok we dock West Ham 2 points, shove that up yer arse Warnock u fuckin John Conteh!!"
said...If like me you didn't see the game and can't be arsed to wait till 5pm for the highlights on Fox. I found these little beauties on a KUMB thread, enjoy ;-) http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86663
said...Woke up the whole family and bawled my eyes out.
Oh the sweet joy.
Looking very much forward to transfers now, lets see whos on that list that made Lucas Neill jump to WHU.
Luv yuse all!!!
Melbournehammer said...I resorted to listening on radio via whutv.Connection dropped out at about 40 minutes into the first half.Tears of joy when I saw we had scored on the skysports live scores page.
Listened again at the start of the second half only to lose connection again.Got it back about 20 minutes into the half but was too scared to listen.Flicking between skysports and WHO.Checked on here to see if anyone was around but too scared to post in case I jinxed us.
Once we were safe, I turned on foxtel to watch Warnock's face as his side fell back to where they belong.
Geez after the last 5 seasons is anyone else up for midtable mediocrity next season or do we strap ourselves in for another rollcoaster ride.
Ain't this seasons highlights DVD going to be a special one.
norven munky said...sob sob
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21726058-5001023,00.html
said...FUCK YEAH what a night. I cant believe more of you didnt come to the pig, it was heaps of fun. We went crazy when we heard Tevez had scored and when we heard the final whistle had blown. What a great escape, it must surely go down as the greatest ever.
said...Well, Well I cant farking believe it. How one earth we managed to stay up I will never know. The change of Noble moving into the midfield and Tevez finally hitting peak form did the trick. I must say that everything possible went our way. Could have lost 10-0 to the gooners but won, Big Sam resigns the week we play bolton and then Man U has the title wrapped up before we play them. Fantastic no idea how they did it but they stayed up. Now we just have to wait for the court case.
The only question for me - curbs may well solidify the club, but I hope he can spend the money he will be given wisely (which he hasnt so far - wasted it totally) and prove he can take his career and the might hammers to the next level.
In the meantime Warnock can get farked!
beggers said...What a night, so happy it's hard to put into words. Getting out of the mess we were in has been nothing less than miraculous. Without a doubt the greatest escape of them all! Even Steve McQueen and David Attenborough would be looking at this and saying "fuck me, now that's an escape!"
Some things did go our way but we still had to win a lot of games, against good sides, to even give ourselves a chance and we did it. So I'm having none of this luck shit, we had to make it happen and no-one can tell me we didn't deserve to stay up.
All the teams around us had their fate in their own hands and they blew it.
So there's talk of court action, do me a favour!!!! we've had our punishment and I can't find anywhere where it says we must have points deducted. I still believe it's all bullshit anyway. Can you imagime court action and something comes of it then we appeal and they appeal, it would drag on forever. The FA have already said any further action is doomed so the "gang of four" all need to take a pill and have a good lie down.
What a result, LET'S GO FUCK'N MENTAL, LET'S GO FUCK'N MENTAL LALALA LA, LALALA LA.........
said...I can't fuvcking believe it! There's only one Carlos Tevez!! Am back in the UK and watched it on Sky with with the split screen one half showing us one half Wigan.... First time back for three years and made my whole family sit through the game at our reunion! Wrnt fcking mental when TEVEZ scored, then sweated the secd half out...Fcking amazing! Bring on next season!
said...well one things for sure...my liver and fragile emotions are going to appreciate a break
crazy....i still cant really believe it....i was sure we were going down....amazingi wish there was room for wigan to go down too but next year i guess
TheRedRisky said...C+P BBC
Jewell resigns as Wigan manager
Wigan chairman Dave Whelan and manager Paul Jewell celebrate after the win at Sheffield United ensured the club's Premiership survival
Paul Jewell has resigned as Wigan boss - less than 24 hours after saving the Premiership club from relegation on the final day of the season.
TheRedRisky said...And While we knew it was coming i personally didnt expect it to be so soon. Stuart Pearce got sacked
Saturday, May 12, 2007
Fox Sport Denies Request to Show Game Live on Main Event
For some unfathomable reason, Fox Sports & Premier Media Group have turned down a request from Dave Lewis to have our game on Sunday night shown live on Main Event rather than delayed at 2.30am
Dave even offered to pay for it.
So lets leave aside the gaff Foxtel originally made to show SU vs Wigan live (neither team even has a supporter's club in Oz!) rather than the other last round match that matters played between the team with probably the largest supporter base in the world in Man United and West Ham which has a massive and more importantly active support base in Oz.
Let's just focus on why having made that decision, they can't acquiesce to a request to at least show us on Main Event. There is nothing programmed on Main Event at that time, just filler fox boxoffice previews.
Is it a $$$ issue? As I say Dave Lewis offered to pay for it. I'm not sure what that offer extended to but presumably it at least covered Fox's set up costs.
So why does Foxsports care enough to say no?
Pig-headedness in not wanting to admit they were wrong to choose SU vs Wigan as the live game?
Please tell us Foxsports!
Dave even offered to pay for it.
So lets leave aside the gaff Foxtel originally made to show SU vs Wigan live (neither team even has a supporter's club in Oz!) rather than the other last round match that matters played between the team with probably the largest supporter base in the world in Man United and West Ham which has a massive and more importantly active support base in Oz.
Let's just focus on why having made that decision, they can't acquiesce to a request to at least show us on Main Event. There is nothing programmed on Main Event at that time, just filler fox boxoffice previews.
Is it a $$$ issue? As I say Dave Lewis offered to pay for it. I'm not sure what that offer extended to but presumably it at least covered Fox's set up costs.
So why does Foxsports care enough to say no?
Pig-headedness in not wanting to admit they were wrong to choose SU vs Wigan as the live game?
Please tell us Foxsports!
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Foxtel have disgraced themselves.
Not only will the supporters of WHUFC miss out on a nailbiting finale to the season, MAN UTD fans are not going to be able to watch their team lift the Premiership trophy live.
FOXTEL should be ashamed of themselves.
TheRedRisky said...
Too very scary rumours
Carlos Tevez has told his West Ham team-mates he will quit the club at the end of the season - with AC Milan and Sevilla leading the chase. (The Sun)
Though it is still unclear who owns Tevez - with Media Sports Investment allegedly offering him to five different clubs for £31m. (Daily Express)
norven munky said...
I would love to have him stay but whether we stay up or go down, Tevez will be whisked away in the summer.
Hopefully not to an English club but hopefully somewhere where we will get to see him play.
said...
0-1 HT
Fuck me - we were getting raped then CArlitosssssssssss!
Wigan winning 2-1 it's brown pants time!
Stu. said...
You're telling me Dave. I've got the world service in my ears listening to the Wigan match. Muck fee.
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said...Foxtel have disgraced themselves.
Not only will the supporters of WHUFC miss out on a nailbiting finale to the season, MAN UTD fans are not going to be able to watch their team lift the Premiership trophy live.
FOXTEL should be ashamed of themselves.
TheRedRisky said...Too very scary rumours
Carlos Tevez has told his West Ham team-mates he will quit the club at the end of the season - with AC Milan and Sevilla leading the chase. (The Sun)
Though it is still unclear who owns Tevez - with Media Sports Investment allegedly offering him to five different clubs for £31m. (Daily Express)
norven munky said...I would love to have him stay but whether we stay up or go down, Tevez will be whisked away in the summer.
Hopefully not to an English club but hopefully somewhere where we will get to see him play.
said...0-1 HT
Fuck me - we were getting raped then CArlitosssssssssss!
Wigan winning 2-1 it's brown pants time!
Stu. said...You're telling me Dave. I've got the world service in my ears listening to the Wigan match. Muck fee.
Brisbane Hammers Polo Shirts
A month or so ago Beggers (AKA Gaz) posted about the possibility of getting some Brisbane Hammers polo shirts made up. After some investigation he got a quote of $35 per shirt for a minimum order of 20. We are close to getting that figure so we can shortly place an order but what I want is for everybody to post on this thread their requirements in the following format (using norvern munky as an example):Name: Tony McEvoy (aka norvern munky)
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; 1 x S; Total = 2
Email Address: tony.mcevoy@gmail.com
Please do not post any other comments in this thread except for shirt orders.
Beggers has kindly agreed to pay the money up front when he places the order and will collect cash from everybody after so thanks very much for that Gaz. Once the shirts are ready we will arrange to meet at the pig n whistle for a drink and to collect the shirts and reimburse Gaz (beggers).
Of course this is a not for profit sale however if the shirts were to come in slightly under the $35 quoted then I don't think any of us will begrudge the excess funds going towards paying for Gaz's own shirt for the efforts he has put in to arrange this.
We will firm up the order Monday 14th May so get in quick if you want a shirt and haven't commented on this thread!!
Up the 'ammers!
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Beggers - this is the order I wrote down on that envelope and gave you Saturday night - they can all go care of my email. I know there were 7 on there - I've added an extra for my missus so 8 in total. :-)
Name: Tony McEvoy (aka norvern munky)
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; 1 x S; Total = 2
Name: Richard Fuller
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; 3 x M; Total = 4
Name: Dave
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; 1 x L; Total = 2
Email Address: Brisbanehammers@hotmail.com
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Name: Terry Medlycott
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x M; Total = 1
Email Address: terrymedlycott@hotmail.com
lee said...
Name: lee
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x xl;
Total = 1
Email Address: leehatcliff@hotmail.com
Unknown said...
Name: Mark Hessling
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; Total = 1
Email Address: M.Hessling@qut.edu.au
said...
Name: Simon Beacon (aka beex)
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x L; Total = 1
Email Address:simonbeacon@optusnet.com.au
beggers said...
Name: Gary Samuels (aka beggers)
Number of shirts required: 1 x XL; 2 x M
Total = 3
Email Address: blindbeggers@hotmail.com
said...
Name: Dean McGrath
shirt: 1 x (L)
email:
the_next_michael_vaughan@hotmail.com
thanks Gaz and anyone else who organised
said...
Name: Richard Bishop
Number of shirts: 1 x M
Email: dickster1515@hotmail.com
Thanks for organising guys...
said...
Name: Han Ling
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x M;
Total = 1
Email Address:
hanling@internode.on.net
norven munky said...
Hey Beggers
Dave put in my order in the 1st comment posted. My missus is worried that a mens small will be too big - do you know if they do ladies sizes?
If so can you please amend my order to :-
Name: Tony McEvoy (aka norven munky)
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; 1 x S(ladies); Total = 2
email = tony.mcevoy@gmail.com
Oh yeah I was also thinking maybe after we get em it might be kinda funky to get our names embroidered on somehow...norven munky, beggers etc only strange thing is that Dave wants Mickey on his :)
cheers
Tony
said...
1 x XXL for Micky.
I had a chat to him Saturday. He likes his shirts big apparently - either that or he plans a winter of pie indulgence. lol :)
Basha said...
What a great Idea- Good Effort
Name: Julian Bates
Number of Shirts: 2 X Med.
Email Address:julianbates@hotmail.com
Can't wait to get down the pub and see all the boys wearing the shirts with pride
Come On You Irons
said...
Cheers
Yes 1 x XXL
Micky Palmer
palmerinoz@iinet.net.au
also if they come with free pies Dave then happy days...
said...
Name: Mark Cottle
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x 3XL; 1 x M; Total = 2
Email Address: mcottle@bigpond.net.au
said...
if it aint too late to place and order...
Name: Bret Tiwana (aka Mr bret)
Numebr of Shirts and Sizes Required: 1 x large
Total= 1
Email: clockworkskinhead79@hotmail.com
said...
Is the plan to all meet at the Pig and give Beggers his dosh. If so, I may be able to make it along for a while. Probably couldn't make it for more than an hour but would be nice to see you all again.Let me know the date if that's the plan?
beggers said...
Beexie, the plan is to meet at the pig ,at a yet to be decided time and date, cough up to me, get your shirts, put on a West Ham DVD, watch football and drink beer. Somehow I think you'll be staying for more than an hour mate!
said...
beggers - i'd love to stay all night but i think my recovering back will be deciding when i leave, unfortunately.
beggers said...
Norven, forgot to mention, looks like we can order ladies shirts, which should make her in doors happy.
Stu. said...
Name: Stuart Robinson
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL, Total = 1
Email Address: stuart.nomiddlename.robinson@gmail.com
said...
canning town hammer here again
( i know i go on )
leaving east ham town hall in morning at 6.30 be in manchester at i hope 10.30
guys do me a favor once you all have your hammers polo shirts please take a picture and post it on here
fcuk knows how i will drive home if we stay up....mind you fcuk knows how i will drive home if we go down......still lets hope i am the only sober person in the car comin home from manchester after we get a 1 all draw with james collins getting our goal from a tevez corner with 7 mins to go
Guys
lets get that point that keeps us up and after we do lets go fcuking mental lets going fucking mental la la la la la la la la
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Dave said...Beggers - this is the order I wrote down on that envelope and gave you Saturday night - they can all go care of my email. I know there were 7 on there - I've added an extra for my missus so 8 in total. :-)
Name: Tony McEvoy (aka norvern munky)
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; 1 x S; Total = 2
Name: Richard Fuller
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; 3 x M; Total = 4
Name: Dave
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; 1 x L; Total = 2
Email Address: Brisbanehammers@hotmail.com
said...Name: Terry Medlycott
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x M; Total = 1
Email Address: terrymedlycott@hotmail.com
lee said...Name: lee
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x xl;
Total = 1
Email Address: leehatcliff@hotmail.com
Unknown said...Name: Mark Hessling
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; Total = 1
Email Address: M.Hessling@qut.edu.au
said...Name: Simon Beacon (aka beex)
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x L; Total = 1
Email Address:simonbeacon@optusnet.com.au
beggers said...Name: Gary Samuels (aka beggers)
Number of shirts required: 1 x XL; 2 x M
Total = 3
Email Address: blindbeggers@hotmail.com
said...Name: Dean McGrath
shirt: 1 x (L)
email:
the_next_michael_vaughan@hotmail.com
thanks Gaz and anyone else who organised
said...Name: Richard Bishop
Number of shirts: 1 x M
Email: dickster1515@hotmail.com
Thanks for organising guys...
said...Name: Han Ling
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x M;
Total = 1
Email Address:
hanling@internode.on.net
norven munky said...Hey Beggers
Dave put in my order in the 1st comment posted. My missus is worried that a mens small will be too big - do you know if they do ladies sizes?
If so can you please amend my order to :-
Name: Tony McEvoy (aka norven munky)
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL; 1 x S(ladies); Total = 2
email = tony.mcevoy@gmail.com
Oh yeah I was also thinking maybe after we get em it might be kinda funky to get our names embroidered on somehow...norven munky, beggers etc only strange thing is that Dave wants Mickey on his :)
cheers
Tony
said...1 x XXL for Micky.
I had a chat to him Saturday. He likes his shirts big apparently - either that or he plans a winter of pie indulgence. lol :)
Basha said...What a great Idea- Good Effort
Name: Julian Bates
Number of Shirts: 2 X Med.
Email Address:julianbates@hotmail.com
Can't wait to get down the pub and see all the boys wearing the shirts with pride
Come On You Irons
said...Cheers
Yes 1 x XXL
Micky Palmer
palmerinoz@iinet.net.au
also if they come with free pies Dave then happy days...
said...Name: Mark Cottle
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x 3XL; 1 x M; Total = 2
Email Address: mcottle@bigpond.net.au
said...if it aint too late to place and order...
Name: Bret Tiwana (aka Mr bret)
Numebr of Shirts and Sizes Required: 1 x large
Total= 1
Email: clockworkskinhead79@hotmail.com
said...Is the plan to all meet at the Pig and give Beggers his dosh. If so, I may be able to make it along for a while. Probably couldn't make it for more than an hour but would be nice to see you all again.Let me know the date if that's the plan?
beggers said...Beexie, the plan is to meet at the pig ,at a yet to be decided time and date, cough up to me, get your shirts, put on a West Ham DVD, watch football and drink beer. Somehow I think you'll be staying for more than an hour mate!
said...beggers - i'd love to stay all night but i think my recovering back will be deciding when i leave, unfortunately.
beggers said...Norven, forgot to mention, looks like we can order ladies shirts, which should make her in doors happy.
Stu. said...Name: Stuart Robinson
Number of shirts and sizes required: 1 x XL, Total = 1
Email Address: stuart.nomiddlename.robinson@gmail.com
said...canning town hammer here again
( i know i go on )
leaving east ham town hall in morning at 6.30 be in manchester at i hope 10.30
guys do me a favor once you all have your hammers polo shirts please take a picture and post it on here
fcuk knows how i will drive home if we stay up....mind you fcuk knows how i will drive home if we go down......still lets hope i am the only sober person in the car comin home from manchester after we get a 1 all draw with james collins getting our goal from a tevez corner with 7 mins to go
Guys
lets get that point that keeps us up and after we do lets go fcuking mental lets going fucking mental la la la la la la la la
Wednesday, May 09, 2007
Prem League says Screw You to Whelan & Co
The Premier League has sent a letter written by its lawyers to the 4 shit stirring clubs and cc'd all other teams effectively warning them any legal action would be doomed to fail
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/article1764274.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/article1764274.ece
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Oggyflute said...
It was always doomed to fail. The F.A. are hardly going to put themselves into a situation open to litigation from clubs that they have an agreement with, in the first place.
TheRedRisky said...
Ok way off topic but has anyone else seen David Lewis' post about trying to get foxtel to at least show West Ham Man U Pay Per View?
If that happened do you think the pig would show it?? This game after all is only like 3 days off after all
TheRedRisky said...
Thursday 10th May,
Dear OZ Hammers,
Well I am utterly appalled.
After all my efforts Foxtel have refused to assist and the Man Utd v WHU game will remain on delayed broadcast at 2.30am EST after the Sheffield Utd v Wigan live game.
I mean with all due respect, how many supporters in Australia are there for Sheffield Utd and Wigan compared to WHU and Man Utd? I mean really! What type of a choice is this - they should show both games!
The situation is as follows:
1. Foxtel holds the exclusive rights to the broadcast of EPL (English Premier League) games in Australia.
2. All EPL matches in the final round are, quite appropriately, played at 3pm on the final Sunday so as to ensure that the final positions cannot be influenced by teams knowing the result of other matches.
3. This means that broadcasters need to choose which game they broadcast live assuming that they have only one medium of delivery.
4. Foxtel has an effective MONOPOLY and therefore we have no means of legally watching a live broadcast of the match. (I am aware of several people who will watch the match via live feeds that breach licences - I cannot participate in such events nor can I ever promote them.)
5. I made representations to Foxtel management with a suggestion that the Man Utd v WHU game be shown live on their Main Event channel and I offered to pay for it!
6. They have refused. They claim that they are choosing to broadcast our game and that it is reasonable to do so on a 2.5-hour delay commencing at 2.30am on Monday morning.
This is grossly unfair and not only that its poor service and a poor business decision! Once again, this is a £50m match and we are denied the right to see it LIVE. Who really enjoys seeing a match on delay when they know they could see it live? Internationally other broadcasters are using their multi-channel facilities to broadcast 2+ matches when this type of thing occurs. We are left out in the cold and I am NOT impressed.
However, I am not taking this lying down and I will continue in David vs. Goliath mode once again until all avenues are exhausted.
I have been the staunchest of protectors of copyright and licensing throughout my career but where better is the case made for the exhaustion of copyright/licence than this example when the licensee refuses to adequately exploit that licence? It is trite to claim that broadcast at 2.30am on a Monday morning is effective exercise of the licence as the broadcast is not live nor is it convenient to the audience!
In such a case, even more so when the licence holder is an effective monopoly, another provider should be permitted to broadcast live.
I will be making representations to the Minister for Communications in Canberra tonight!
Send your emails of support as well to the press, to Foxtel and elsewhere as we should have the choice are are promised.
Worst case scenario, I still plan to have LIVE radio broadcast of the Man Utd v WHU game at The Hakoah Club in Sydney and I'll be funding part of the bar at The Hakoah Club in Bondi, Sydney for OZ Hammers.
See you there from 11.30pm Sunday 13th May.
TheRedRisky said...
I forgot to add FUCKING HELL!
Lets all break into daves house and stream the game there so we can watch it :P
said...
This is stupid. I remember two years ago when west brom, norwich, southampton and crystal palace all fought to survive relegation on the final day and fox sports showed two games live. Why cant they just do that again?
norven munky said...
there are 2 other live sports events on that clash...superbikes which has a big following apparently and the final of the Rome Masters tennis (tho I see Federer was knocked out overnight @ $1.04)
Dave Lewis also sent out the contact details for Fox Sports & Premier Media to complain to :-
mailto:feedback@foxsports.com.au
mailto:contact@premiermediagroup.com.au
norven munky said...
I searched for Sheffield United Australia in google to try and find out how big an OZ support base they have and the 3rd hit was whu-au :)
said...
No matter what happens West Ham will always be there just to make up the numbers. Lets not delude ourselves. The players we attract are usually other clubs rejects at the wrong end of their careers. Look atthe last few years signings and take note. The only decent players with actual potential were Tevez and Mashers, and we were just a shop window for those two.
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Oggyflute said...It was always doomed to fail. The F.A. are hardly going to put themselves into a situation open to litigation from clubs that they have an agreement with, in the first place.
TheRedRisky said...Ok way off topic but has anyone else seen David Lewis' post about trying to get foxtel to at least show West Ham Man U Pay Per View?
If that happened do you think the pig would show it?? This game after all is only like 3 days off after all
TheRedRisky said...Thursday 10th May,
Dear OZ Hammers,
Well I am utterly appalled.
After all my efforts Foxtel have refused to assist and the Man Utd v WHU game will remain on delayed broadcast at 2.30am EST after the Sheffield Utd v Wigan live game.
I mean with all due respect, how many supporters in Australia are there for Sheffield Utd and Wigan compared to WHU and Man Utd? I mean really! What type of a choice is this - they should show both games!
The situation is as follows:
1. Foxtel holds the exclusive rights to the broadcast of EPL (English Premier League) games in Australia.
2. All EPL matches in the final round are, quite appropriately, played at 3pm on the final Sunday so as to ensure that the final positions cannot be influenced by teams knowing the result of other matches.
3. This means that broadcasters need to choose which game they broadcast live assuming that they have only one medium of delivery.
4. Foxtel has an effective MONOPOLY and therefore we have no means of legally watching a live broadcast of the match. (I am aware of several people who will watch the match via live feeds that breach licences - I cannot participate in such events nor can I ever promote them.)
5. I made representations to Foxtel management with a suggestion that the Man Utd v WHU game be shown live on their Main Event channel and I offered to pay for it!
6. They have refused. They claim that they are choosing to broadcast our game and that it is reasonable to do so on a 2.5-hour delay commencing at 2.30am on Monday morning.
This is grossly unfair and not only that its poor service and a poor business decision! Once again, this is a £50m match and we are denied the right to see it LIVE. Who really enjoys seeing a match on delay when they know they could see it live? Internationally other broadcasters are using their multi-channel facilities to broadcast 2+ matches when this type of thing occurs. We are left out in the cold and I am NOT impressed.
However, I am not taking this lying down and I will continue in David vs. Goliath mode once again until all avenues are exhausted.
I have been the staunchest of protectors of copyright and licensing throughout my career but where better is the case made for the exhaustion of copyright/licence than this example when the licensee refuses to adequately exploit that licence? It is trite to claim that broadcast at 2.30am on a Monday morning is effective exercise of the licence as the broadcast is not live nor is it convenient to the audience!
In such a case, even more so when the licence holder is an effective monopoly, another provider should be permitted to broadcast live.
I will be making representations to the Minister for Communications in Canberra tonight!
Send your emails of support as well to the press, to Foxtel and elsewhere as we should have the choice are are promised.
Worst case scenario, I still plan to have LIVE radio broadcast of the Man Utd v WHU game at The Hakoah Club in Sydney and I'll be funding part of the bar at The Hakoah Club in Bondi, Sydney for OZ Hammers.
See you there from 11.30pm Sunday 13th May.
TheRedRisky said...I forgot to add FUCKING HELL!
Lets all break into daves house and stream the game there so we can watch it :P
said...This is stupid. I remember two years ago when west brom, norwich, southampton and crystal palace all fought to survive relegation on the final day and fox sports showed two games live. Why cant they just do that again?
norven munky said...there are 2 other live sports events on that clash...superbikes which has a big following apparently and the final of the Rome Masters tennis (tho I see Federer was knocked out overnight @ $1.04)
Dave Lewis also sent out the contact details for Fox Sports & Premier Media to complain to :-
mailto:feedback@foxsports.com.au
mailto:contact@premiermediagroup.com.au
norven munky said...I searched for Sheffield United Australia in google to try and find out how big an OZ support base they have and the 3rd hit was whu-au :)
said...No matter what happens West Ham will always be there just to make up the numbers. Lets not delude ourselves. The players we attract are usually other clubs rejects at the wrong end of their careers. Look atthe last few years signings and take note. The only decent players with actual potential were Tevez and Mashers, and we were just a shop window for those two.
LMAO!
I don't want to tempt fate by laughing but this is quite funny!
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said...
I see we are on delay on Fox. Damn, do I go to bed and watch it live as I did v Bolton (had warehouse Cricket on the sunday) or listen on in.
0-1 West Ham Noble 76min
said...
i read somewhere this morning, that fergie is going to rest players against chelsea, and play a full strength side against us, out of respect for sheff u and wigan, ill try and find the site again.
TheRedRisky said...
TJ i saw that on espn
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=428653&cc=3436
There it is there
beggers said...
Let's see who he plays. He's gotta be seen to be fair so he's talking the talk. I'm under no illusions it will be a decent side whatever happens and getting anything at OT will be a huge ask. In saying that Fregies no mug, any manager that can win a league by playing O'shea and Fletcher is proof in itself!But I suspect a couple of key players will be rested. I mean he's got the FA Cup the week after to think about and I'm sure his allgiance will be to his club and to no-one else. Fear of losing someone to injury against a side fighting for their lives will be enough to put some doubt in his mind.
However, it shouldn't really matter to the team who plays, we've gotta worry about our own game and not give a fuck about theirs. We have to play at our aggressive best for the 90 mins no matter what.
Fucking worried sick about this weekend!!
said...
We should expect a full strength side - they will want to round off the season in style in front of their own fans no doubt. Remember last year we didn't rest any of our boys vs Spurs the week before the final.
I am sure that Fergie would also love to put us down after we denied him the title back in the 90s when they drew against us at Upton Park on the final day of the season.
We must concentrate on our game and not worry about the Wigan game, if we go out 100% positive we can get a result. We must play to win, if we sit back we will get battered. The reason we have won 6 out of 8 is because we have been in win or bust mode so keep playing that way. Look how iffy we are when we try to close up shop (Bolton game second half).
said...
play a full side then mate..... we are claret and blue... the win would be more sweeter beatin the champions wif their top players... as much as i hate ronaldo, he's one geez that's gona give us lotsa trouble in midfield...
up the hammers!
mr west ham bret
said...
just seen man u team to play chelsea and he has rested quite a few...... its pissing down in london at the moment but am i botherd?
nope i aint... i just watched a west ham dvd and lads was like having a bunk up with who ever gets your rocks off
all said and done we can change our wife our job our hair our face even our sex....but one thing will never change and thats we are west ham till we die
just read the newham recorder and its enough to give you a hard on look it up lads google newham recorder and have a look at the hammers page
FCUK I LOVE THIS CLUB
CTH
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said...I see we are on delay on Fox. Damn, do I go to bed and watch it live as I did v Bolton (had warehouse Cricket on the sunday) or listen on in.
0-1 West Ham Noble 76min
said...i read somewhere this morning, that fergie is going to rest players against chelsea, and play a full strength side against us, out of respect for sheff u and wigan, ill try and find the site again.
TheRedRisky said...TJ i saw that on espn
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=428653&cc=3436
There it is there
beggers said...Let's see who he plays. He's gotta be seen to be fair so he's talking the talk. I'm under no illusions it will be a decent side whatever happens and getting anything at OT will be a huge ask. In saying that Fregies no mug, any manager that can win a league by playing O'shea and Fletcher is proof in itself!But I suspect a couple of key players will be rested. I mean he's got the FA Cup the week after to think about and I'm sure his allgiance will be to his club and to no-one else. Fear of losing someone to injury against a side fighting for their lives will be enough to put some doubt in his mind.
However, it shouldn't really matter to the team who plays, we've gotta worry about our own game and not give a fuck about theirs. We have to play at our aggressive best for the 90 mins no matter what.
Fucking worried sick about this weekend!!
said...We should expect a full strength side - they will want to round off the season in style in front of their own fans no doubt. Remember last year we didn't rest any of our boys vs Spurs the week before the final.
I am sure that Fergie would also love to put us down after we denied him the title back in the 90s when they drew against us at Upton Park on the final day of the season.
We must concentrate on our game and not worry about the Wigan game, if we go out 100% positive we can get a result. We must play to win, if we sit back we will get battered. The reason we have won 6 out of 8 is because we have been in win or bust mode so keep playing that way. Look how iffy we are when we try to close up shop (Bolton game second half).
said...play a full side then mate..... we are claret and blue... the win would be more sweeter beatin the champions wif their top players... as much as i hate ronaldo, he's one geez that's gona give us lotsa trouble in midfield...
up the hammers!
mr west ham bret
said...just seen man u team to play chelsea and he has rested quite a few...... its pissing down in london at the moment but am i botherd?
nope i aint... i just watched a west ham dvd and lads was like having a bunk up with who ever gets your rocks off
all said and done we can change our wife our job our hair our face even our sex....but one thing will never change and thats we are west ham till we die
just read the newham recorder and its enough to give you a hard on look it up lads google newham recorder and have a look at the hammers page
FCUK I LOVE THIS CLUB
CTH
Sunday, May 06, 2007
Still Got a Point to Make!
I'm not saying "don't get carried away" because I'm already swept away with euphoria right now. But we are not out of the woods yet. A draw next week at the Theatre of Clowns would ensure our Premiership status for one more year and I hope our players don't think the job is done already.
What is good is the fact that Sheffield United's goal difference has been brought back to close to Wigan's after losing to Aston Villa so they have an incentive to win against Wigan next week. However somewhat more dissapointing is the fact that Fulham are now all but safe. Lose next week and there is only one team's result we are looking out for and that is Wigan's.
What is good is the fact that Sheffield United's goal difference has been brought back to close to Wigan's after losing to Aston Villa so they have an incentive to win against Wigan next week. However somewhat more dissapointing is the fact that Fulham are now all but safe. Lose next week and there is only one team's result we are looking out for and that is Wigan's.
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said...
What a magical night, the Hammers live on, get anthing from the Man Utd game and we stay up.Who wouldve believed aye(me thats who never lost the faith),it just wouldnt be Westham without all the drama that goes along with supporting them.The turnout at the Rosemont was excellent about 25 Hammer fans there the noise that we created was awesome especially as the 3 goals went in.Will be doing it again if the game is on Foxtel.So come one come all and enjoy the great atmosphere and cheer for our Hammers
said...
Guys.. another great night and we are now so close to a dream that seemed impossible not so long ago... We can get a draw at Old Trafford as it seems that would probably suit everyone even if Chelsea win today and beat the Mancs... Your right about the Wigan thing though... if they beat Shef U even by 1-0 then they will go above Shef U and so that fixture seems to be in our favour... but if Wigan win and we don't then.............!!!!!! But if you would have said that the only way the worst could happen on the last day was for this situation then I'm sure we would have all took it...
Come on your IRONS!!!!
said...
Wow i still cant believe it, what a result. I know its not all done and dusted yet but we are looking good to stay up. Who would have thought a couple of weeks ago that survival in the last week is in our own hands and that we can lose and could still stay up.
said...
CHEERIO CHEERIO CHEERIO
CHEERIO CHEERIO CHEERIO
fuck im hoping arsenal does chelsea toinght
then the yids do charlton monday night
the blades winning would be nice but the way were playing it looks like we can do the mancs anyway
id like to thank the good people at the tresury casino for funding my night!
said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqFBtRV6GvI
how good is noble....that strike was like Di Canio...amazing
said...
dont mean to sound sour but the 1 point only applies if charlton loses or draws wif the fuckin yids... cuz remember charlton still has a game in hand... we ave to go to old trafford wif a win or die mentality.... cuz neil warnock the propa wanka would let wigan win just to see west ham go down... fuckin tense end to the season... would love to see another 1-nil win for the cockney bois...
see you bois on the weekend...
mr west ham bret
norven munky said...
Magic night! The recent jinx of not winning when watching with Dave is over (though I insisted on staying out in the back bar till they shut it just to be safe :)
The stay up stay down permutations are doing my head in..check out this article from kumb - The Relegation Equation.
----------pts GD, GS
Fulham....39 -20 37
Sheff Utd.38 -22 31
West Ham..38 -25 34
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Wigan.....35 -23 35
Charlton..33 -24 32
Watford...27 -30 28
FWIW, my predictions
1) Charlton will get a point at most against Spurs and be down before the weekend begins
2) SU will at least draw with Wigan (I suspect they'll beat them)to send them down...Wigan really have been poor for several weeks and turning it around at a packed Brammall Lane should be beyond them.
Personally I would much rather see Warnock get fucked over and relegated but can't see it..
said...
It would be so typical for West Ham to avoid relegation by beating the league champions in both encounters.
:)
TheRedRisky said...
Fergie had better Rest those players in a weeks time because Man U just won the title.
1 - 1 At the emirates
daniel said...
man utd will rest players against chelsea in the week then play his full side as preparation for the fa cup final
said...
im not so sure he will play his no.1 team against us
cuz we are playing for our season and atm we are playing a hard physical style of play...but iif the no.1 team is out there they might be floating, not going into 50/50 with gusto for fear of getting injured
or they might just have a nice big dose of apathy
TheRedRisky said...
OMFG the cunts at fox!
English Premier League
Sheff Utd v Wigan
FOX Sports 3
11:30 pm - 02:30 am
Sunday May 13 2007
Even though i should, i dont care about this match!
said...
ill be glued to this one....i was hoping that either us or this game was on
but i thought they would show the united game for sure
norven munky said...
I know due to goal diff now we don't have to worry about a SU/Wigan pact but what if it at half time we are down 3-0 and SU/Wigan are 0-0. I wouldn't put it past Warnock to monitor updates from old trafford and then get em to concede a goal and send us down instead of Wigan.
I just submitted a suggestion for a topic for the Rich List..Australian's to have played top flight football in England...how many do you guys want to bid? (without googling) :)
TheRedRisky said...
Kewell
Filan
Neill
Cahill
Lazaridis
Slater
Skoko
Emerton
Viduka
Simunic (Aussie born)
Moore
Schwarzer
Popovic (he at least got promoted to the EPL)
TheRedRisky said...
And did anyone see ESPNsoccernet thing
One moment they were saying West Ham deserved to stay up and the next saying we should have been docked points
said...
Shame to hear they arn't showing the West Ham game. Are we still going to go to the Pig and support the Blades?
said...
Bloody Fuxtel!
Why don't they show simultaneuos games on the last day??? They have 3 channels FFS!
said...
canning town hammer here
Just watched charlton lose 2 nil to the yids and go down
defoe scored the 2 nd goal and o one likes that
got me a ticket for sunday paid £150 for it but fingers fuckig crossed it will be worth it
come on you irons
norven munky said...
Risky you were meant to bid how many and then someone could try and outbid you :)
hayden fox (ex West Ham)
john aloisi
craig johnstone
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said...What a magical night, the Hammers live on, get anthing from the Man Utd game and we stay up.Who wouldve believed aye(me thats who never lost the faith),it just wouldnt be Westham without all the drama that goes along with supporting them.The turnout at the Rosemont was excellent about 25 Hammer fans there the noise that we created was awesome especially as the 3 goals went in.Will be doing it again if the game is on Foxtel.So come one come all and enjoy the great atmosphere and cheer for our Hammers
said...Guys.. another great night and we are now so close to a dream that seemed impossible not so long ago... We can get a draw at Old Trafford as it seems that would probably suit everyone even if Chelsea win today and beat the Mancs... Your right about the Wigan thing though... if they beat Shef U even by 1-0 then they will go above Shef U and so that fixture seems to be in our favour... but if Wigan win and we don't then.............!!!!!! But if you would have said that the only way the worst could happen on the last day was for this situation then I'm sure we would have all took it...
Come on your IRONS!!!!
said...Wow i still cant believe it, what a result. I know its not all done and dusted yet but we are looking good to stay up. Who would have thought a couple of weeks ago that survival in the last week is in our own hands and that we can lose and could still stay up.
said...CHEERIO CHEERIO CHEERIO
CHEERIO CHEERIO CHEERIO
fuck im hoping arsenal does chelsea toinght
then the yids do charlton monday night
the blades winning would be nice but the way were playing it looks like we can do the mancs anyway
id like to thank the good people at the tresury casino for funding my night!
said...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqFBtRV6GvI
how good is noble....that strike was like Di Canio...amazing
said...dont mean to sound sour but the 1 point only applies if charlton loses or draws wif the fuckin yids... cuz remember charlton still has a game in hand... we ave to go to old trafford wif a win or die mentality.... cuz neil warnock the propa wanka would let wigan win just to see west ham go down... fuckin tense end to the season... would love to see another 1-nil win for the cockney bois...
see you bois on the weekend...
mr west ham bret
norven munky said...Magic night! The recent jinx of not winning when watching with Dave is over (though I insisted on staying out in the back bar till they shut it just to be safe :)
The stay up stay down permutations are doing my head in..check out this article from kumb - The Relegation Equation.
----------pts GD, GS
Fulham....39 -20 37
Sheff Utd.38 -22 31
West Ham..38 -25 34
-------------------
Wigan.....35 -23 35
Charlton..33 -24 32
Watford...27 -30 28
FWIW, my predictions
1) Charlton will get a point at most against Spurs and be down before the weekend begins
2) SU will at least draw with Wigan (I suspect they'll beat them)to send them down...Wigan really have been poor for several weeks and turning it around at a packed Brammall Lane should be beyond them.
Personally I would much rather see Warnock get fucked over and relegated but can't see it..
said...It would be so typical for West Ham to avoid relegation by beating the league champions in both encounters.
:)
TheRedRisky said...Fergie had better Rest those players in a weeks time because Man U just won the title.
1 - 1 At the emirates
daniel said...man utd will rest players against chelsea in the week then play his full side as preparation for the fa cup final
said...im not so sure he will play his no.1 team against us
cuz we are playing for our season and atm we are playing a hard physical style of play...but iif the no.1 team is out there they might be floating, not going into 50/50 with gusto for fear of getting injured
or they might just have a nice big dose of apathy
TheRedRisky said...OMFG the cunts at fox!
English Premier League
Sheff Utd v Wigan
FOX Sports 3
11:30 pm - 02:30 am
Sunday May 13 2007
Even though i should, i dont care about this match!
said...ill be glued to this one....i was hoping that either us or this game was on
but i thought they would show the united game for sure
norven munky said...I know due to goal diff now we don't have to worry about a SU/Wigan pact but what if it at half time we are down 3-0 and SU/Wigan are 0-0. I wouldn't put it past Warnock to monitor updates from old trafford and then get em to concede a goal and send us down instead of Wigan.
I just submitted a suggestion for a topic for the Rich List..Australian's to have played top flight football in England...how many do you guys want to bid? (without googling) :)
TheRedRisky said...Kewell
Filan
Neill
Cahill
Lazaridis
Slater
Skoko
Emerton
Viduka
Simunic (Aussie born)
Moore
Schwarzer
Popovic (he at least got promoted to the EPL)
TheRedRisky said...And did anyone see ESPNsoccernet thing
One moment they were saying West Ham deserved to stay up and the next saying we should have been docked points
said...Shame to hear they arn't showing the West Ham game. Are we still going to go to the Pig and support the Blades?
said...Bloody Fuxtel!
Why don't they show simultaneuos games on the last day??? They have 3 channels FFS!
said...canning town hammer here
Just watched charlton lose 2 nil to the yids and go down
defoe scored the 2 nd goal and o one likes that
got me a ticket for sunday paid £150 for it but fingers fuckig crossed it will be worth it
come on you irons
norven munky said...Risky you were meant to bid how many and then someone could try and outbid you :)
hayden fox (ex West Ham)
john aloisi
craig johnstone
Saturday, May 05, 2007
Brisbane Hammers: Bolton game live @ Pig n Whistle
Live from Upton Park Saturday May 5
KO 11:55pm Saturday night Brisbane!
(Meet at the pub from 10pm.)
This one is definately confirmed!
Well here we are! This could possibly be our cup final - our destiny is now in our own hands. Fantastic supportin' on Saturday vs Wigan and I expect you'll all be itching to get out this weekend too.
Come on you Irons!
Pig n Whistle
123 Eagle St
Brisbane
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norven munky said...
personally I think we would be slightly better facing the mancs with the title in the balance...
no pressure = turn it on party time for them a'la after Best died and they spanked us with scintilating football.
With their depth and competition for places if they rest a few it wouldn't help us much imho.
Dave said...
I actually think what will happen if they have wrapped up the title it will help us but they will not rest players because the likes of Warnock & Jewell would grill them. We need them to qualify for the CL final and then they will tell their players to be cautious and not risk injury.
beggers said...
Yeah if they make the CL final, that and the FA Cup, they'll rest players, be mugs not too. Particularly when they watch the tape of Noble crunching in, blimey!
said...
Cant wait for this one. A win should get us out of the relegation zone for the first time in ages. Hopefully we get a big crowd at the pig.
CMON YOU IRONS!!!!!!!!!!
said...
Sat was awesome... I don't give a fuck what Warnock Moans about... tough shit.... lets hope the mancs have won it... they will defo rest players because they play this weds in CL, Manc Derby on Sat and then Chelsea next Wed... thus they won't play those they want to rest for the cup Final.... We just need to beat Bolton and not worry about that game... if we need something from it.. then hopefully we can get it with the Mancs resting players... but if we win on Sat then hopefully that could be enough... Come on your IRONS!!!!
beggers said...
Can't make this one, wifes birthday and we'll be out. Gutted!
Have a good night lads and prey for the win.
said...
yea bois we'll be out in full force for this one.... need the 3 points...
for all u geezs who wana see my band, we play the same nite at the jubilee hotel... 470 st pauls terrace valley....
doors open at 8, we play 9.30ish... and after the show bailing for the match.... so make ur way to the jubes and ave a few pints wif us...
PLAN OF ATTACK
BRISBANE SKINHEADS
mr west ham bret!
said...
oi geezers... go to www.voteyourteam.com and vote for west ham, u can vote every hour... the yids are on our heels, we're 6th at the moment...
up the hammers
mr bret
said...
24 hours to go until the game that will decide our fate. I am shitting myself.
CMON YOU IRONS!!!!!!!
WEST HAM TILL I DIE
said...
CANNING TOWN HAMMER HERE
I WILL TAKE MY SEAT AND FOR 90 MINS MY GUTS WILL BE TWISTING INSIDE OUT
But once its over win ..lose ...draw....i am west ham and fuck the world
enjoy your night out lads drink and be happy and dont you ever forget
we are west ham till we die
i go for a 2 nil win noble and tevez
said...
Russell Brand - Dave Whelan can eff right off, West Ham's only crime is being a shambolic club.
Dave Whelan, the chairman of Wigan Athletic, in my view, can eff right off. I'm proper brassed off (at first I was just cheesed off, then browned off till eventually I reached the summit - brassed off) with all of West Ham's fellow relegation strugglers clamouring for a points deduction after last week's tribunal decreed that a £5.5m fine would be penalty enough. Six clubs in total, naturally the ones vying with the Irons for a place in the Championship, all met up, like castrato assassins, thumbing their impotent nubs, plotting litigation against a club that have endured a season of unremitting punishment. Eff off.
norven munky said...
btw there is a $10 cover at the Jube
http://www.jubileehotel.com.au/content.asp?page=events&eventid=28723
said...
Jeff Winter:
( X Premier League Ref ) West Ham case is unfair and it 'stinks'May 4 2007
By Jeff Winter, with the Evening Gazette
Hang on a minute, I thought when a precedent had been set, then the law and future rulings are based on that.
If you look in the Sports Gazette at the local league tables you will see asterisks next to some teams and at the bottom it states points deducted for fielding an ineligible player, the same on a Sunday when the national newspapers show regional league tables.
So that's sorted then, rules are rules. We often read the saddening story of a club secretary who has accidentally got a signing on form in too late or did not know of a player having played earlier in the season for another club in a competition.
Did Bury not get kicked out of the FA Cup this season for fielding a Poolie loanee who was not eligible for the cup tie?
A few seasons ago I refereed a replayed League Cup tie between West Ham (ironically) and Aston Villa, because West Ham had played an ineligible player in the first game.
I am sure I could fill this page with other examples, but finally did Boro not have three points deducted and as a result get relegated back in 1997?
So really it was a no brainer for the no brainers who sat on the commission to deal with West Ham.
This situation was even worse, because they had knowingly carried out the transfers of the Argentinian duo, against league rules, and played them both in several league games. Points deduction guaranteed you would have thought.
But no, the biscuit man was threatening to take legal action.
Was Steve Gibson advised not to do so in 97, and there was the threat of the Premier League having a court case ongoing after the end of the season?
So, lo and behold, a £5.5m fine. Now West Ham might still go down, but what if they don't, what will a Charlton, Sheffield United, Fulham, Wigan or even Boro have to say then?
Well I will say it now. It stinks. You will have noted from previous week's columns my feelings that the game at the highest level is riddled with unfairness and this does take the "biscuit".
PS. I hope the mighty Boro can do you a big favour by beating Wigan and Fulham, but I wouldn't count on it as the Boro are like the Hammers this season, beating the top teams and poor against the bottom teams.
said...
canning town london east 16 here again
its just after 0840 here and quite dull.... but come 3 o/clock east london will be red hot
enjoy your night lads and raise a glass for west ham fans worldwide
i think the canning town born hammers fan that is mark noble will be on fire today...he knows what its like to be a hammer and know what it means to us fans
belt yourself up ...hold on tight...its the west ham rollercoaster and come 4.45 lets hope we are all on top of the world
" said bertie me to bill shankley have you heard of the north bank highbury no said bill i dont think so but i heard of the north bank WEST HAM "
IF EVER YOU READ THIS DINGLE GET IN TOUCH YOU FAT KLUNT ....
BILLY
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norven munky said...personally I think we would be slightly better facing the mancs with the title in the balance...
no pressure = turn it on party time for them a'la after Best died and they spanked us with scintilating football.
With their depth and competition for places if they rest a few it wouldn't help us much imho.
Dave said...I actually think what will happen if they have wrapped up the title it will help us but they will not rest players because the likes of Warnock & Jewell would grill them. We need them to qualify for the CL final and then they will tell their players to be cautious and not risk injury.
beggers said...Yeah if they make the CL final, that and the FA Cup, they'll rest players, be mugs not too. Particularly when they watch the tape of Noble crunching in, blimey!
said...Cant wait for this one. A win should get us out of the relegation zone for the first time in ages. Hopefully we get a big crowd at the pig.
CMON YOU IRONS!!!!!!!!!!
said...Sat was awesome... I don't give a fuck what Warnock Moans about... tough shit.... lets hope the mancs have won it... they will defo rest players because they play this weds in CL, Manc Derby on Sat and then Chelsea next Wed... thus they won't play those they want to rest for the cup Final.... We just need to beat Bolton and not worry about that game... if we need something from it.. then hopefully we can get it with the Mancs resting players... but if we win on Sat then hopefully that could be enough... Come on your IRONS!!!!
beggers said...Can't make this one, wifes birthday and we'll be out. Gutted!
Have a good night lads and prey for the win.
said...yea bois we'll be out in full force for this one.... need the 3 points...
for all u geezs who wana see my band, we play the same nite at the jubilee hotel... 470 st pauls terrace valley....
doors open at 8, we play 9.30ish... and after the show bailing for the match.... so make ur way to the jubes and ave a few pints wif us...
PLAN OF ATTACK
BRISBANE SKINHEADS
mr west ham bret!
said...oi geezers... go to www.voteyourteam.com and vote for west ham, u can vote every hour... the yids are on our heels, we're 6th at the moment...
up the hammers
mr bret
said...24 hours to go until the game that will decide our fate. I am shitting myself.
CMON YOU IRONS!!!!!!!
WEST HAM TILL I DIE
said...CANNING TOWN HAMMER HERE
I WILL TAKE MY SEAT AND FOR 90 MINS MY GUTS WILL BE TWISTING INSIDE OUT
But once its over win ..lose ...draw....i am west ham and fuck the world
enjoy your night out lads drink and be happy and dont you ever forget
we are west ham till we die
i go for a 2 nil win noble and tevez
said...Russell Brand - Dave Whelan can eff right off, West Ham's only crime is being a shambolic club.
Dave Whelan, the chairman of Wigan Athletic, in my view, can eff right off. I'm proper brassed off (at first I was just cheesed off, then browned off till eventually I reached the summit - brassed off) with all of West Ham's fellow relegation strugglers clamouring for a points deduction after last week's tribunal decreed that a £5.5m fine would be penalty enough. Six clubs in total, naturally the ones vying with the Irons for a place in the Championship, all met up, like castrato assassins, thumbing their impotent nubs, plotting litigation against a club that have endured a season of unremitting punishment. Eff off.
norven munky said...btw there is a $10 cover at the Jube
http://www.jubileehotel.com.au/content.asp?page=events&eventid=28723
said...Jeff Winter:
( X Premier League Ref ) West Ham case is unfair and it 'stinks'May 4 2007
By Jeff Winter, with the Evening Gazette
Hang on a minute, I thought when a precedent had been set, then the law and future rulings are based on that.
If you look in the Sports Gazette at the local league tables you will see asterisks next to some teams and at the bottom it states points deducted for fielding an ineligible player, the same on a Sunday when the national newspapers show regional league tables.
So that's sorted then, rules are rules. We often read the saddening story of a club secretary who has accidentally got a signing on form in too late or did not know of a player having played earlier in the season for another club in a competition.
Did Bury not get kicked out of the FA Cup this season for fielding a Poolie loanee who was not eligible for the cup tie?
A few seasons ago I refereed a replayed League Cup tie between West Ham (ironically) and Aston Villa, because West Ham had played an ineligible player in the first game.
I am sure I could fill this page with other examples, but finally did Boro not have three points deducted and as a result get relegated back in 1997?
So really it was a no brainer for the no brainers who sat on the commission to deal with West Ham.
This situation was even worse, because they had knowingly carried out the transfers of the Argentinian duo, against league rules, and played them both in several league games. Points deduction guaranteed you would have thought.
But no, the biscuit man was threatening to take legal action.
Was Steve Gibson advised not to do so in 97, and there was the threat of the Premier League having a court case ongoing after the end of the season?
So, lo and behold, a £5.5m fine. Now West Ham might still go down, but what if they don't, what will a Charlton, Sheffield United, Fulham, Wigan or even Boro have to say then?
Well I will say it now. It stinks. You will have noted from previous week's columns my feelings that the game at the highest level is riddled with unfairness and this does take the "biscuit".
PS. I hope the mighty Boro can do you a big favour by beating Wigan and Fulham, but I wouldn't count on it as the Boro are like the Hammers this season, beating the top teams and poor against the bottom teams.
said...canning town london east 16 here again
its just after 0840 here and quite dull.... but come 3 o/clock east london will be red hot
enjoy your night lads and raise a glass for west ham fans worldwide
i think the canning town born hammers fan that is mark noble will be on fire today...he knows what its like to be a hammer and know what it means to us fans
belt yourself up ...hold on tight...its the west ham rollercoaster and come 4.45 lets hope we are all on top of the world
" said bertie me to bill shankley have you heard of the north bank highbury no said bill i dont think so but i heard of the north bank WEST HAM "
IF EVER YOU READ THIS DINGLE GET IN TOUCH YOU FAT KLUNT ....
BILLY
Wednesday, May 02, 2007
Forget Tévez - loan system leaves game open to abuse
C&P http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/martin_samuel/article1733890.ece
Martin Samuel
The first thing any follower of West Ham United should admit is that it was not fair. There will be no glee and no gloating here, so supporters of Wigan Athletic, Sheffield United and Fulham can read on without risk of hypertension.
The club’s representatives lied and no mitigation outweighs that. Carlos Tévez, the West Ham player of the year, brought the club points that should have been taken away. Paul Jewell, the Wigan manager, Dave Whelan, the chairman, and Neil Warnock, the Sheffield United manager, insist that, in the same circumstances, their clubs would have been docked points in double figures, but that is unproven and unlikely.
At this stage in the season, it would appear that the FA Premier League would rather incinerate its rulebook than have relegation issues decided in the High Court, as would surely have happened. The shrewdest move by Eggert Magnússon, the West Ham chairman, was not withdrawing the threat of legal appeal if a points deduction was imposed, even when admitting guilt. On moral grounds, this should not have placed the Premier League in a difficult position, but in reality it did.
While West Ham’s case was heard by an independent commission, it is unthinkable that those involved in the decision were not made aware of the organisational meltdown that would result from one particular form of punishment.
No one should use this to justify the decision. West Ham’s penalty should have been the same whether applied in October or April, sitting in tenth place or eighteenth. It is also worthless to assess Tévez’s impact in terms of goals or points gained; he galvanised West Ham’s season, pure and simple. If the Premier League had demanded retribution equivalent to Tévez’s impact at Upton Park, points would not suffice; the only conclusion would have been summary relegation.
So mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, confiteor Deo omnipotenti. But.
On Saturday, when Manchester United played at Goodison Park in a match that is looked upon as definitive in the running of the title race, Tim Howard, the Everton goalkeeper, could not play because of an agreement between the clubs. And if that is not a third party influencing the policies and performance of a team, what is?
That was the root of West Ham’s rule infringement, remember. The systematic lying was the worst of it, but the reason that former directors were so keen to cover up the truth of the Tévez and Javier Mascherano transfers was to avoid a breach of Premier League rule U18, which governs third parties having a material influence on club policies and performance.
Mascherano’s career was controlled by two outside companies, Global Soccer Agencies and Mystere Services. Tévez was owned by Media Sports International and Just Sports. But when the Everton goalkeeper is removed from a match against Manchester United by Manchester United, how is that so different?
Howard was on loan from United to Everton this season, but on February 14 his move became permanent. At that moment, all aspects of his loan arrangement were discontinued, bar one. As a condition of the deal, United insisted that Howard could not play against them when the teams met on April 28. Everton had no choice but to acquiesce because David Moyes, the manager, wanted the player signed as soon as possible to ward off interest from other clubs (Howard has had an excellent season).
Had Everton not consented to the April 28 clause, United would not have allowed the loan to become permanent until the summer, running the risk of a rival bid, and Howard would still not have been able to play against United last weekend. Over a barrel, Everton agreed, which on Saturday meant that a third party (Manchester United) materially influenced the selection of a player who contractually belongs to Everton.
There is more. The April 28 agreement became active only if the title had not been decided. So there can be no suggestion that this is standard practice. United insisted on an arrangement that would be of benefit to them if the match was significant; if not, Everton could have played Howard. And did it influence Everton’s performance? You bet.
In the 61st minute, Everton were leading 2-0 and were comfortable. At that moment, Iain Turner, the goalkeeper standing in for Howard, dropped a harmless corner by Ryan Giggs at the feet of John O’Shea, who scored. This was the turning point. Sir Alex Ferguson had kept Cristiano Ronaldo on the bench, behaving as if he felt the game beyond recovery. When O’Shea got his goal, Ferguson swiftly introduced the Player of the Year and United went on to win 4-2.
Turner was very weak for the second goal, too, which was put through his own net by Phil Neville, the Everton midfield player and brother of Gary, the United captain. And, despite these bizarre coincidences, there is no suggestion of nefarious activity at Goodison Park; but no thanks to the Premier League for that.
The governing body that took £5.5 million from West Ham for concealing third-party influence at their club has allowed a system to foster domestically that has far greater potential for abuse. There have been three United goalkeepers active in the Barclays Premiership this season – and only one of them for Manchester United.
As well as Edwin van der Sar, the first-choice, Ben Foster plays for Watford and Howard for Everton. So in four of 38 matches, United have guaranteed facing an understudy in goal. They are not alone in farming out talent (Tomasz Kuszczak, Van der Sar’s deputy, is on loan from West Bromwich Albion), but considering Turner’s hapless hand in the destiny of the title, they are the system’s greatest beneficiaries this season.
Taken to its practical conclusion, United could legally, according to Premier League rules, assemble a squad of ten talented goalkeepers to be loaned throughout the division, ensuring that they alone would play half of their matches against inexperienced understudies. On a smaller scale, this has happened. Howard, not Turner, will play in goal for Everton against Chelsea on the final day of this season, while Foster was desperately unfortunate to be on the losing side against Chelsea on March 31, beaten deep in injury time by Salomon Kalou after an heroic display.
In three matches against United this season (including an FA Cup semi-final), Watford have fielded Richard Lee, the second choice to Foster, and he has conceded ten goals.
While obsessing over the role of foreign agents, which is negligible, the Premier League has given the green light to a far more dangerous loan and transfer system that allows third parties (who are also rivals) to dictate team selection and frequently compromises the competition through complex financial arrangements. If United win the treble this season, Everton will be £1.7 million better off as part of bonus clauses included in the Wayne Rooney transfer. Is that healthy? Is that not open to greater manipulation than any of the arrangements between Tévez and Mascherano’s owners and West Ham?
On the final day of the season, Everton visit Chelsea for a match that could decide the title. For argument’s sake, say that fixture involved a trip to Old Trafford instead. The terms of Rooney’s transfer could dictate that by losing to United, Everton gain £1.7 million; by winning, the club forfeit the same sum. If the manager or chairman were unscrupulous, might that fact not influence policy and performance? Might that not equate to a half-strength, experimental team, or a lack of ambition? It says something that English football is not corrupt because it sure as hell is given the chance to be.
The loan system has had a dubious influence on the Premier League for many years, which is why, although West Ham supporters know that the club have got away extraordinarily lightly, few will be lying awake at night racked with guilt.
In 2003, when West Ham were last relegated, Bolton Wanderers survived in part because of Sam Allardyce’s astute use of the loan system. Players such as Iván Campo, Salva Ballesta, Bernard Mendy and Florent Laville kept Bolton up, home-grown English players such as Joe Cole went down and were lost to West Ham soon after. No one cared about a rogue system then. Allardyce, because he is a fine manager, built a club and made Bolton a success story with permanent players, but the foundation on which that success was laid is propping up a tower of contradictions over third-party control and interest.
Something has to give. Either the Premier League has to grow up and acknowledge that the business of football is changing and third-party arrangements that are commonplace in South America have to be accommodated within the rulebook, or it has to look beyond Tévez and Mascherano to a system that allows the opposition to pick players for Everton and could make Saturday’s result at Goodison Park a nice little earner for everyone.
In the end, who would you rather have influencing policy and performance at Everton: Moyes, Pini Zahavi or Ferguson?
Martin Samuel
The first thing any follower of West Ham United should admit is that it was not fair. There will be no glee and no gloating here, so supporters of Wigan Athletic, Sheffield United and Fulham can read on without risk of hypertension.
The club’s representatives lied and no mitigation outweighs that. Carlos Tévez, the West Ham player of the year, brought the club points that should have been taken away. Paul Jewell, the Wigan manager, Dave Whelan, the chairman, and Neil Warnock, the Sheffield United manager, insist that, in the same circumstances, their clubs would have been docked points in double figures, but that is unproven and unlikely.
At this stage in the season, it would appear that the FA Premier League would rather incinerate its rulebook than have relegation issues decided in the High Court, as would surely have happened. The shrewdest move by Eggert Magnússon, the West Ham chairman, was not withdrawing the threat of legal appeal if a points deduction was imposed, even when admitting guilt. On moral grounds, this should not have placed the Premier League in a difficult position, but in reality it did.
While West Ham’s case was heard by an independent commission, it is unthinkable that those involved in the decision were not made aware of the organisational meltdown that would result from one particular form of punishment.
No one should use this to justify the decision. West Ham’s penalty should have been the same whether applied in October or April, sitting in tenth place or eighteenth. It is also worthless to assess Tévez’s impact in terms of goals or points gained; he galvanised West Ham’s season, pure and simple. If the Premier League had demanded retribution equivalent to Tévez’s impact at Upton Park, points would not suffice; the only conclusion would have been summary relegation.
So mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, confiteor Deo omnipotenti. But.
On Saturday, when Manchester United played at Goodison Park in a match that is looked upon as definitive in the running of the title race, Tim Howard, the Everton goalkeeper, could not play because of an agreement between the clubs. And if that is not a third party influencing the policies and performance of a team, what is?
That was the root of West Ham’s rule infringement, remember. The systematic lying was the worst of it, but the reason that former directors were so keen to cover up the truth of the Tévez and Javier Mascherano transfers was to avoid a breach of Premier League rule U18, which governs third parties having a material influence on club policies and performance.
Mascherano’s career was controlled by two outside companies, Global Soccer Agencies and Mystere Services. Tévez was owned by Media Sports International and Just Sports. But when the Everton goalkeeper is removed from a match against Manchester United by Manchester United, how is that so different?
Howard was on loan from United to Everton this season, but on February 14 his move became permanent. At that moment, all aspects of his loan arrangement were discontinued, bar one. As a condition of the deal, United insisted that Howard could not play against them when the teams met on April 28. Everton had no choice but to acquiesce because David Moyes, the manager, wanted the player signed as soon as possible to ward off interest from other clubs (Howard has had an excellent season).
Had Everton not consented to the April 28 clause, United would not have allowed the loan to become permanent until the summer, running the risk of a rival bid, and Howard would still not have been able to play against United last weekend. Over a barrel, Everton agreed, which on Saturday meant that a third party (Manchester United) materially influenced the selection of a player who contractually belongs to Everton.
There is more. The April 28 agreement became active only if the title had not been decided. So there can be no suggestion that this is standard practice. United insisted on an arrangement that would be of benefit to them if the match was significant; if not, Everton could have played Howard. And did it influence Everton’s performance? You bet.
In the 61st minute, Everton were leading 2-0 and were comfortable. At that moment, Iain Turner, the goalkeeper standing in for Howard, dropped a harmless corner by Ryan Giggs at the feet of John O’Shea, who scored. This was the turning point. Sir Alex Ferguson had kept Cristiano Ronaldo on the bench, behaving as if he felt the game beyond recovery. When O’Shea got his goal, Ferguson swiftly introduced the Player of the Year and United went on to win 4-2.
Turner was very weak for the second goal, too, which was put through his own net by Phil Neville, the Everton midfield player and brother of Gary, the United captain. And, despite these bizarre coincidences, there is no suggestion of nefarious activity at Goodison Park; but no thanks to the Premier League for that.
The governing body that took £5.5 million from West Ham for concealing third-party influence at their club has allowed a system to foster domestically that has far greater potential for abuse. There have been three United goalkeepers active in the Barclays Premiership this season – and only one of them for Manchester United.
As well as Edwin van der Sar, the first-choice, Ben Foster plays for Watford and Howard for Everton. So in four of 38 matches, United have guaranteed facing an understudy in goal. They are not alone in farming out talent (Tomasz Kuszczak, Van der Sar’s deputy, is on loan from West Bromwich Albion), but considering Turner’s hapless hand in the destiny of the title, they are the system’s greatest beneficiaries this season.
Taken to its practical conclusion, United could legally, according to Premier League rules, assemble a squad of ten talented goalkeepers to be loaned throughout the division, ensuring that they alone would play half of their matches against inexperienced understudies. On a smaller scale, this has happened. Howard, not Turner, will play in goal for Everton against Chelsea on the final day of this season, while Foster was desperately unfortunate to be on the losing side against Chelsea on March 31, beaten deep in injury time by Salomon Kalou after an heroic display.
In three matches against United this season (including an FA Cup semi-final), Watford have fielded Richard Lee, the second choice to Foster, and he has conceded ten goals.
While obsessing over the role of foreign agents, which is negligible, the Premier League has given the green light to a far more dangerous loan and transfer system that allows third parties (who are also rivals) to dictate team selection and frequently compromises the competition through complex financial arrangements. If United win the treble this season, Everton will be £1.7 million better off as part of bonus clauses included in the Wayne Rooney transfer. Is that healthy? Is that not open to greater manipulation than any of the arrangements between Tévez and Mascherano’s owners and West Ham?
On the final day of the season, Everton visit Chelsea for a match that could decide the title. For argument’s sake, say that fixture involved a trip to Old Trafford instead. The terms of Rooney’s transfer could dictate that by losing to United, Everton gain £1.7 million; by winning, the club forfeit the same sum. If the manager or chairman were unscrupulous, might that fact not influence policy and performance? Might that not equate to a half-strength, experimental team, or a lack of ambition? It says something that English football is not corrupt because it sure as hell is given the chance to be.
The loan system has had a dubious influence on the Premier League for many years, which is why, although West Ham supporters know that the club have got away extraordinarily lightly, few will be lying awake at night racked with guilt.
In 2003, when West Ham were last relegated, Bolton Wanderers survived in part because of Sam Allardyce’s astute use of the loan system. Players such as Iván Campo, Salva Ballesta, Bernard Mendy and Florent Laville kept Bolton up, home-grown English players such as Joe Cole went down and were lost to West Ham soon after. No one cared about a rogue system then. Allardyce, because he is a fine manager, built a club and made Bolton a success story with permanent players, but the foundation on which that success was laid is propping up a tower of contradictions over third-party control and interest.
Something has to give. Either the Premier League has to grow up and acknowledge that the business of football is changing and third-party arrangements that are commonplace in South America have to be accommodated within the rulebook, or it has to look beyond Tévez and Mascherano to a system that allows the opposition to pick players for Everton and could make Saturday’s result at Goodison Park a nice little earner for everyone.
In the end, who would you rather have influencing policy and performance at Everton: Moyes, Pini Zahavi or Ferguson?
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whubris said...
Great article Dave.
on a personal note I may be moving in to a unit in about 2 weeks, meaning I can more regularly contribute once again!
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That'll be great Graham. How is Canberra treating you? Are you still working for Boeing down there or new company? Has Michelle settled in ok?
beggers said...
Interesting article Dave and I like the logic behind it.
Still can't get my mind round this really. If the FA register a player surely there's certain criteria that must be met and the FA would check to see there are no impropriaties before accepting the player. As I see it if the FA register the player and down the track something is not right, it's their fuck up and therefore their problem. Too late to whinge after the event IMO.
One of the lads at the Pig last week said it was down to Whelan from Wigan. Had he not moaned none of this would have happened! Whelan you are an arsehole!
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whubris said...Great article Dave.
on a personal note I may be moving in to a unit in about 2 weeks, meaning I can more regularly contribute once again!
said...That'll be great Graham. How is Canberra treating you? Are you still working for Boeing down there or new company? Has Michelle settled in ok?
beggers said...Interesting article Dave and I like the logic behind it.
Still can't get my mind round this really. If the FA register a player surely there's certain criteria that must be met and the FA would check to see there are no impropriaties before accepting the player. As I see it if the FA register the player and down the track something is not right, it's their fuck up and therefore their problem. Too late to whinge after the event IMO.
One of the lads at the Pig last week said it was down to Whelan from Wigan. Had he not moaned none of this would have happened! Whelan you are an arsehole!
Tevez In Doubt for Remaining Games?
This article in The Times is raising some questions about whether Tevez will be able to play on Saturday and maybe the last game as well.
".... Joorabchian has denied that he has given permission for the contract to be annulled because he would then have no guarantee that Tévez would return to his control at the end of the season.
The Iranian-born businessman says he is willing to make necessary amendments to the contract that would satisfy the Premier League, but he has been unable to meet West Ham officials this week. Unless an agreement is reached, he is unlikely to allow Tévez to play against Bolton on Saturday and Manchester United eight days later. The Premier League has said that is a matter between the club and Joorabchian."
although other parts of the article are more optimistic :-
“He has great affection for the people at West Ham and has absolutely no gripe with the club, the directors or the chairman. He wants them to do well and he is, of course, very close to Carlos and wants the best for him. He has made himself available to West Ham this week [for talks] and hopes they can come to an amicable settlement before the game on Saturday.”
Also of interest is this statement about Tevez next season :-
“New arrangements are in place with the Premier League and dialogue is taking place in terms of Carlos Tévez’s future beyond the end of the season,” a West Ham spokesman said. “He is a registered player with West Ham and nothing has changed since he played against Wigan on Saturday.”
".... Joorabchian has denied that he has given permission for the contract to be annulled because he would then have no guarantee that Tévez would return to his control at the end of the season.
The Iranian-born businessman says he is willing to make necessary amendments to the contract that would satisfy the Premier League, but he has been unable to meet West Ham officials this week. Unless an agreement is reached, he is unlikely to allow Tévez to play against Bolton on Saturday and Manchester United eight days later. The Premier League has said that is a matter between the club and Joorabchian."
although other parts of the article are more optimistic :-
“He has great affection for the people at West Ham and has absolutely no gripe with the club, the directors or the chairman. He wants them to do well and he is, of course, very close to Carlos and wants the best for him. He has made himself available to West Ham this week [for talks] and hopes they can come to an amicable settlement before the game on Saturday.”
Also of interest is this statement about Tevez next season :-
“New arrangements are in place with the Premier League and dialogue is taking place in terms of Carlos Tévez’s future beyond the end of the season,” a West Ham spokesman said. “He is a registered player with West Ham and nothing has changed since he played against Wigan on Saturday.”
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Tuesday, May 01, 2007
Adelaide Hammers: West Ham vs Bolton live at the Rosemont Hotel
Adelaide Time & Venue confirmed
Venue - Rosemont Hotel
Time - meet up from 9.30pm
Kick off - 11.30pm
Great pub with good atmosphere! Looking for a better turn up than last week so spread the word.
cheers
westham5096
Venue - Rosemont Hotel
Time - meet up from 9.30pm
Kick off - 11.30pm
Great pub with good atmosphere! Looking for a better turn up than last week so spread the word.
cheers
westham5096
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